Elementz 5v5 Tier List (Draft Mode)

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Dryesias

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08-27-2010

Elementz, Kog'maw wasn't changed much at all. He's now got a free pair of Beserker Boots, and lost half of his Last Whisper. He was always low tier 2. Patch just made people give him another shot, while bringing him up a bit.

For people who started playing him after the patch, he was always that good.


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Morello

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08-27-2010
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I go to sleep and go to work. I then come home to 10 new pages Holy **** lol.
The natives seem restless.


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Cruzerthebruzer

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08-27-2010

You don't think that getting free berserker's boots is a big deal?


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Hydriumlol

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08-27-2010

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Cho'gath, Vladimir, Garen, Singed, and Amumu

You have 1 squishy caster champion, 3 champions that get weaker the longer the game goes on, and Amumu.

Do you honestly think that the ONLY way this team can be beaten is by Kog Maw and a Madreds?

Would Kog Maw be a better pick? Possibly, but Kayle is very versatile and very dangerous mid game. Definitely, not a champion to ignore.
Who the hell is the squishy caster in that group?

I assure you with 4k HP, guardian angel and B-Veil Vlad is quite the opposite of squishy.


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Smautix

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08-27-2010

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For people who started playing him after the patch, he was always that good.
Conversely, he was always that bad as well.

Kog has a base attack damage of 49 at level 1. For reference, Soraka's base is 52.

Kog's Q is 100% worthless except for the passive. It hits for the same as his E, but has way less range, only hits 1 target, doesn't snare, and lowers a stat that doesn't meaningfully affect Kog'maw's damage output (since if you have any ArPen on Kog you're doing it wrong.)

Any champion with a ranged CC or gap-closer (haste, dive, whatever) completely removes Kog'maw from any meaningful battle unless his team primaries the character capable of shutting Kog down, which sometimes isn't an option when the character is a tank or in the event they have more than one.

Really can't figure out why Kog is above Tier 3. Every non-tank champion in the game can destroy opponents who don't force them to play defensively.


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Omnicis

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08-27-2010

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Who the hell is the squishy caster in that group?

I assure you with 4k HP, guardian angel and B-Veil Vlad is quite the opposite of squishy.
on top of it, singed gets stronger as the game goes on, lol.


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Frege

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08-27-2010

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Was this the first red post in this 356 page thread?


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Elementz

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08-27-2010

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Originally Posted by Dryesias View Post
Elementz, Kog'maw wasn't changed much at all. He's now got a free pair of Beserker Boots, and lost half of his Last Whisper. He was always low tier 2. Patch just made people give him another shot, while bringing him up a bit.

For people who started playing him after the patch, he was always that good.
Okay I'll explain the two.

Kennen does good damage and has A LOT of CC in a team fight. Combined with someone like Vlad, Amumu, Fiddle, Nunu, Kat etc.. other AoE'ers it does devistating things. His laning has always been good and now they buffed his mid and late game making him a very good champion now.

As for Kog. I most likely underestimated him a bit and the tier I had him in was probably incorrect. I never played him AD I always played him AP before the patch and I just didn't find it to be that effective. I also never really saw any Kog's after he was released. My bad for not doing more to find out how good he really was before..

Anyways.. Madreds + W + Red buff is a REDONKULOUS amount of single target damage. It can do a stupid amount of damage. At the same time though. Kog is slow, and once W runs out he's very susceptible to being focused down hence why he's not tier 1. He lacks a form of survivability but has over the top DPS now.


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BlargCow

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08-27-2010

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Was this the first red post in this 356 page thread?
theres one on the first page


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Elementz

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08-27-2010

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Was this the first red post in this 356 page thread?
Yes if you don't count Statikk on the first page. He wasn't working at Riot when he posted

YAY FOR OFFICAL RED POST NOW!

Yay for Morello

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