@Morello, Ashe buff goals?

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ValderiusRex

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02-01-2012

The big gripe on Ashe seems to be her inability to keep up with other carries damage wise and her utter lack of an escape mechanism. The (much needed) buffs we're getting in the Ziggs patch don't seem to really go in that direction. Instead, they're working on her ability to generally poke with Volley and generally hang around in lane a little longer.

Care to share the thought process behind the changes to our beloved frost archer? I'm curious to know why the design team is taking her in the direction they are.


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Pantsukun

Senior Member

02-01-2012

You typically don't pick Ashe for her amazing DPS.

Also, not everyone needs an escape mechanism. Sivir doesn't have one either. And before you go "well she has her ultimate!!" so does Ashe. Sivir can speed herself up, Ashe can slow people down. Same difference.


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AsheIsElite

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02-01-2012

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Originally Posted by PattGT View Post
You typically don't pick Ashe for her amazing DPS.

Also, not everyone needs an escape mechanism. Sivir doesn't have one either. And before you go "well she has her ultimate!!" so does Ashe. Sivir can speed herself up, Ashe can slow people down. Same difference.
It's funny because you don't consider the ability to NOT be stunned (Albeit one spell) to be an escape.


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SleepyDayz

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02-01-2012

Ashe is queen of kiting. Inb4 grave is when in fact, he is one of the worst kiter for a ranged dps.


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shatteredperfect

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02-01-2012

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Originally Posted by PattGT View Post
You typically don't pick Ashe for her amazing DPS.

Also, not everyone needs an escape mechanism. Sivir doesn't have one either. And before you go "well she has her ultimate!!" so does Ashe. Sivir can speed herself up, Ashe can slow people down. Same difference.
same difference? wow... lol

some people's kids


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Bwns

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02-01-2012

Ashes biggest problem right now is actually that she is arguably the weakest AD carry during the laning phase. These buffs were probably aimed at improving this.


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Morello

Lead Designer

02-01-2012
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Ashes biggest problem right now is actually that she is arguably the weakest AD carry during the laning phase. These buffs were probably aimed at improving this.
Mostly this. Ashe, just virtue of her utility (something that's unique for a ranged carry) is useful in the teamfight portion of the game, especially by giving you a non-tank initiate. Her only real problem is she gets bullied out of lane too easily.


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MrShicken

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02-01-2012

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Mostly this. Ashe, just virtue of her utility (something that's unique for a ranged carry) is useful in the teamfight portion of the game, especially by giving you a non-tank initiate. Her only real problem is she gets bullied out of lane too easily.
Are you doing anything about her passive?


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SgtWoodsy

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02-01-2012

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Mostly this. Ashe, just virtue of her utility (something that's unique for a ranged carry) is useful in the teamfight portion of the game, especially by giving you a non-tank initiate. Her only real problem is she gets bullied out of lane too easily.
You've probably heard this a great deal but letting her passive only work vs other champions (and therefore letting it charge when last-hitting) would be a nice buff.


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MullerPro

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02-01-2012

Why did they reduce the CD on volley? Her mana pool is ****. Why not reduce the mana cost of it too so she can actually use it?


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