Chauster "NESL Fiasco"

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CautiousHedgehog

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07-17-2011

wondering how this jaden guy still has his position as an admin with this kind of behavior. "180 seconds" at 49:31...then "10 seconds" at 51:52. Im not a math major but i think he's about a minute and a half off.

His reason is even funnier, "I'm tired." This is laughable


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MattMarcou

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07-17-2011
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I have reviewed some of the logged conversations from this weekend's North American Gamescom qualifier and had the chance to speak with a few parties involved in the heated dialogues that have been posted. I will continue to review this situation, but I wanted to share some of my thoughts.

Clearly there are heated statements from both players and the tournament administrators at the NESL. None of these statements are particularly mature and in fact they detract from the amazing competition that went on this weekend. They put an unnecessary tarnish on what should be a great start to the first Intel Extreme Masters tournament of the year.

Words between players and tournament officials can often get heated where there are big prizes at stake. This certainly isn't the first time this has happen in eSports and it certainly won't be the last. What I hope that the players and tournament officials will take away here is that they both made some mistakes in how they conducted themselves. I hope these mistakes won't be repeated.

My advice to tournament officials, which I post on this forum and will also deliver to them in a conversation: Keep you opinions and personal criticisms of players out of public forums.

I know firsthand how difficult it can to be a volunteer referee. You often deal with aggressive and difficult personalities and you do it for the love of the game and b/c you want to contribute something to your community. I work with the NESL on a weekly basis and they are a group of really passionate and helpful guys.

With that said, as a referee there is a responsibility to be fair, knowledgeable, and even tempered. It's not easy to do, but it's completely necessary. The best referees that I know continue to earn the respect of the players they work with because of these qualities and week after week they are successful in dealing with contentious situations.

My advice to the players. I understand that you want to see fair officiating and unbiased administrators as well especially when you have weeks worth of practice on the line. You absolutely DESERVE it. But you don't do yourselves any favors when you copy logs of tense conversations and post them up for the world to see (and with the expectations that your fans will take up your cause).

You too need to understand your relationships with tournament officials. If you want them to respect you and continue to do their jobs in a fair, then don't give them the opportunity to write off your attitude. The officials are there to keep order and yes that does mean that they can regulate you for your attitudes as well.

If you disagree with a call, then take it up respectfully with the head of league operations. If you still have an issue, then please understand that the eSports staff here at Riot does pay attention to these incidents and it's our job to improve the competitive standard.

Writing a calm and objective email to me goes a lot further than making me comb through forum logs and forum hearsay.

In addition to mediating some attitudes, there's more that we at Riot Games can do here for our competitive scene. At the Season One Championship, we used a really nice 3 ban draft mode that had modified timers to better accommodate a professional level of play by automating the pick and ban process. These features will continue to be introduced into the tournament realm and some will make it into the live service as well so that the quality of service will increase for both professional and community tournaments.


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Bertyo

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07-17-2011

Cant believe this.


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Creepington

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07-17-2011

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Sometimes getting angry is the best thing you can do. As you get a little older and finally graduate high school you'll learn that the world is filled with injustice. Everywhere you turn people are trying to brush others problems under the carpet and keep things quiet. When you get loud, when you get angry, **** happens.

Being a quiet good little boy sitting patiently in the corner gets you very little in life - a lesson most people take far too long to learn.

I tip my hat to Chauster and Jiji for speaking up, they're acting like real men; they're being heard and getting **** done. Hopefully these NESL admins will be terminated and removed from their positions of authority. They're garbage and this entire fiasco proves it.
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This isn't some MTV Drama....

I know you have a LOT of pent up teen angst, but we're talking about cluster **** caused by a small oversight.

CLG bears the name "pro" in their description just as NESL bears it in their league.

I don't understand how you guys think that having players who act like this will do better for LoL's future e-sport presence over, again, isolated incidents with Admins handling a simple problem that could've been solved by them just asking admins for even 1 measly minute of deliberation.

Crying and screaming and moaning and *****ing =/= a man


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stradu88

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07-17-2011

Inb4 you get downvoted cause you are Marcou, lulz


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Hobbito

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07-17-2011

Oh god not Marcou again...

But in all seriousness, Jaden has proved himself time and again to be a complete ****. I don't know why you insist on associating yourself with a group that makes somebody like him an admin.


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Vantwan

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07-17-2011

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You're basically telling CLG to go **** themselves.


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Creepington

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07-17-2011

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Originally Posted by RiotMarcou View Post
I have reviewed some of the logged conversations from this weekend's North American Gamescom qualifier and had the chance to speak with a few parties involved in the heated dialogues that have been posted. I will continue to review this situation, but I wanted to share some of my thoughts.

Clearly there are heated statements from both players and the tournament administrators at the NESL. None of these statements are particularly mature and in fact they detract from the amazing competition that went on this weekend. They put an unnecessary tarnish on what should be a great start to the first Intel Extreme Masters tournament of the year.

Words between players and tournament officials can often get heated where there are big prizes at stake. This certainly isn't the first time this has happen in eSports and it certainly won't be the last. What I hope that the players and tournament officials will take away here is that they both made some mistakes in how they conducted themselves. I hope these mistakes won't be repeated.

My advice to the NESL admins, which I post on this forum and will also deliver to them in a conversation: Keep you opinions and personal criticisms of players out of public forums.

I know firsthand how difficult it can to be a volunteer referee. You often deal with aggressive and difficult personalities and you do it for the love of the game and b/c you want to contribute something to your community. I work with the NESL on a weekly basis and they are a group of really passionate and helpful guys.

With that said, as a referee there is a responsibility to be fair, knowledgeable, and even tempered. It's not easy to do, but it's completely necessary. The best referees that I know continue to earn the respect of the players they work with because of these qualities and week after week they are successful in dealing with contentious situations.

My advice to the players. I understand that you want to see fair officiating and unbiased administrators as well especially when you have weeks worth of practice on the line. You absolutely DESERVE it. But you don't do yourselves any favors when you copy logs of tense conversations and post them up for the world to see (and with the expectations that your fans will take up your cause).

You too need to understand your relationships with tournament officials. If you want them to respect you and continue to do their jobs in a fair, then don't give them the opportunity to write off your attitude. The officials are there to keep order and yes that does mean that they can regulate you for your attitudes as well.

If you disagree with a call, then take it up respectfully with the head of league operations. If you still have an issue, then please understand that the eSports staff here at Riot does pay attention to these incidents and it's our job to improve the competitive standard.

Writing a calm and objective email to me goes a lot further than making me comb through forum logs and forum hearsay.

In addition to mediating some attitudes, there's more that we at Riot Games can do here for our competitive scene. At the Season One Championship, we used a really nice 3 ban draft mode that had modified timers to better accommodate a professional level of play by automating the pick and ban process. These features will continue to be introduced into the tournament realm and some will make it into the live service as well so that the quality of service will increase for both professional and community tournaments.
Well said, unfortunately, you will be downvoted to oblivion, 50 people will read your post, 500 will downvote you

My point ^^ Above poster


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plasmatorture

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07-17-2011

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You're basically telling CLG to go **** themselves.
No, why don't you actually try reading his post?

Ultimately everything that's being disputed has happened and is done and over with now. It's just people with egos too big continuing to rant and vent.

Grow up and move on, mistakes happen.


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KickinInTheFront

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07-17-2011

Muscley Gorilla Juicehead over here