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EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:06 PM

Pros and Cons of Riot's "Goth Annie" Decision
The most recent Sh*tstorm in LoL has just occurred and I feel it is necessary to post a coherent and neutral perspective on the matter at hand. I see each side's arguments and I understand the validity of each argument as well. So let's examine this in a civilized manner shall we?

The sequence of events leading to this was very simple:
>Riot made a post declaring that Goth Annie would be available separate from her assigned bundle for 10 days at the price of 975 RP
>Prior owners of the skin and a very few others declared this "unfair" because they had payed 3900 RP for the skin, some runes, and a bunch of champions
>Riot decided to reverse their decision to the dismay of many people who had suddenly gotten their hopes up

In short, the immediate and angry backlash to the decision led to a knee jerk reaction by Riot to reverse their decision. In my opinion this was a poor move on Riot's part, not because I'm one of the hopeful Goth Annie buyers, but because it shows that a large outcry over a select group's unhappiness can effect the entire LoL community. That being said, let's look at both sides of the argument.

For the group that is opposing the sale of Goth Annie the argument is as follows:
"We were promised that the skin would be exclusive to the bundle and now it isn't, too many people are going to have it and that's not fair because I payed more for it."

For the group that is supporting the sale of Goth Annie there are a few arguments, they are:
1. "This is now effectively a 'new skin' and we would like the opportunity to purchase it at a reduced price before it goes back to its full price."
2. "I already own many of the champions in the bundle, I would have purchased it earlier but the skin wasn't worth it then. Now the 3900 RP isn't worth one skin."
3. "You got our hopes up and now it was pointless. You teased us with the prospect of a new skin and then took it away."

All of these arguments are valid, but some more so than others, and that's what we have to look at. I would like to preface this with saying that I OWN GOTH ANNIE, do not say that I don't know where the owners are coming from.

For the first group, please keep in mind that the Goth Annie skin is NOT exclusive, but exclusive to the bundle, or basically exclusive to the 3900 RP pricetag. What this means is that the skin has never been a "limited edition skin", it has always been available for those willing to pay for it.

For the second group, understand where the first group is coming from, they payed a large amount of money for something and are worried that other people are going to get it for less and that it will become less special. (This may seem like a greedy perspective, and perhaps it is, but they still have a point.)

Now that both positions have been laid out in a civilized manner, let's look at what should be done. From my point of view, and remember that I am a Goth Annie owner, I view the limited release of Goth Annie in the store as nothing more than a sale. A big sale, but a sale nonetheless. If Riot were discussing releasing it as a full time separate item in the shop then I would be fervently against it, but they're not, they're discussing a temporary price reduction in honor of Annie's rework. For people to complain that other people are getting it for cheaper than they are, well that's just selfish in my opinion. Complaining about this sale is only slightly different than complaining about a skin going on sale the week after you bought it for full price. I understand that there is another level considering it's "bundle exclusive" but other than that I see no difference. Also, the fact that Riot has now falsely gotten the hopes of many players up has an impact as well. I don't personally believe that the current owners of the 3900 RP bundle outnumbers the players who were looking forward to buying Goth Annie over the next 10 days, and that is based on the fact that I've only seen 2 or 3 people with the skin in the 1000+ LoL games I've played. I think that it just seems like a majority because the upset players were more inclined to comment than the players who were ok with it, myself being included. (I was fine with it but left no comment, I actually thought it was a good move on Riot's part.)

So to some everything up, I respect both sides of the argument, but I don't think that a 10 day sale, and it is a sale, is as ground-breaking as many players are making it out to be. I think the knee jerk reaction on Riot's part to change their mind was a big mistake because it left many players disappointed. I do, however, feel that bundle owners should get a little something to compensate them for owning the bundle as opposed to buying the skin separately. Perhaps a little bow on the Goth Annies purchased with the bundle's heads while the ones on sale have no bow. I don't know, I'm sure Riot could figure something out.

What do you think? Please vote in the poll attached and tell me in a civilized manner via the response section. Thanks a lot for reading and good luck on the Fields of Justice!

Arararararara 01-31-2013 05:14 PM

Pro of putting it on sale: people would be happy.
Con of putting it on sale: jerks would be unhappy.
Anything else?

EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:20 PM

Bumping because this needs to be read.

Mcluggets 01-31-2013 05:25 PM

Just because you own the skin doesn't cancel the fact that there could be bias in your thread..

EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mcluggets (Hozzászólás 34111712)
Just because you own the skin doesn't cancel the fact that there could be bias in your thread..

What bias do you see? I tried to provide the most unbiased approach that I could, and laid out why I thought what I thought and gave reasons to back it up.

EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:34 PM

Bumping again for a more accurate poll.

EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:40 PM

It's currently 70%-30%, and this isn't the only poll going in the same direction.

EternusDraco 01-31-2013 05:45 PM

Why don't they just do a sale on the bundle instead?

EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by EternusDraco (Hozzászólás 34112821)
Why don't they just do a sale on the bundle instead?

I could be in favor of this as well, but from most of the polls so far it seems like the people in favor of the sale on annie's skin outnumber the people opposing it.

EmergencyTaco 01-31-2013 05:51 PM

the vote is 31-9, does that speak for nothing?

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