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KingofApples 10-07-2012 11:39 PM

"No secondary resource champions have long cooldowns to compinsate"
 
Riven, Rengar, Rumble, Shyv, Kat, Morde, etc etc

Anyone else see a problem here?

Scarlet Flandre 10-07-2012 11:40 PM

morde uses health?
not that it matters once hp5 or revolver
and no I don't see a problem

KingofApples 10-07-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Worst Talon Ever (Hozzászólás 30010490)
morde uses health?
not that it matters once hp5 or revolver
and no I don't see a problem

He uses health to get free health + shield

Yeah, he's a no cost

Baalhrezem 10-07-2012 11:42 PM

The bigger problem is mobility on manaless champions.

Riven/Lee Sin are the biggest examples.

ObscureClockwork 10-07-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Baalhrezem (Hozzászólás 30010526)
The bigger problem is mobility on manaless champions.

Riven/Lee Sin are the biggest examples.

tbh, i feel its not the mobility (lee sin only has burst mobility, and riven only has mlti-skill sustained mobility)
its the bonuses they must have (along with other top laners, bruisers and ad casters) due to low itemization

Scarlet Flandre 10-07-2012 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofApples (Hozzászólás 30010509)
He uses health to get free health

go play morde please

Baggy Soup 10-07-2012 11:53 PM

Manaless OP.

Egotistica 10-07-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Worst Talon Ever (Hozzászólás 30010579)
go play morde please

You're right, his HP to shield conversion is pretty bad. But once he spends 1200g his skills are now cooldown skills.

Eponet 10-07-2012 11:58 PM

It's worth noting that the CC on manaless characters is significantly weaker than on those with mana. I was thinking the same until a ran into a joke thread of what if champions had cooldowns of 1 second or less on their non-ult abilities.

Not a single resourceless character has a hard CC of even one second in duration, while mana or energy based characters have abilities like AoE knockups, 2 second disables, or taunts lasting from 3 seconds single target to 1.5 seconds AoE.

orc72 10-07-2012 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KingofApples (Hozzászólás 30010476)
Riven, Rengar, Rumble, Shyv, Kat, Morde, etc etc

Anyone else see a problem here?

not at all. Early game it might give them a tad bit of an advantage, but mid and late game the only champions that have mana problems are Swain, Anivia and Amumu. Everyone else either works mana in some way to there build, or just grow out of needing to spam the abilities.

Im not saying the above champions are balanced or unbalanced, Im saying mana isn't that big of a deal.


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