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Borkcire 07-03-2012 12:48 AM

Jayce's background makes Viktor look like a hypocrite and a saturday morning villain.
 
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I know this belongs to the Lore forums, but if I yell loudly enough here, a rioter will notice me.


Viktor is one of my favorite champions and, as a lore enthusiast, I liked his underdog scientist that was driven to the extreme theme. But, that's all we got of him and I hoped that he'd get a judgement or journal mention to flesh out (heh heh) his character even further.

And now we get Jayce that, after much controversy around his release, manages to also make my favorite character look like a one sided dastardly mad scientist who's plans got foiled by the dashing and quick-witted Blast Hardcheese.

I suppose it's too much to ask for Dirk Hardpec's lore to be changed, and I know Viktor is not particularly popular (and that the lore system will take a while to be re-implemented) but I hope that you realize how inconsistent his lore is and I urge to you take it back on it's original path.

We (Or at least I) want Viktor to be a tragic character (villain or otherwise) who sticks to his principles, not a god **** D(ick) Dastardly who stops to cheat.

EDIT:

Wow, I have to say I did not expect this much support, which is why I didn't make the original post more informative, but I am glad where this went. Instead of mindless complaining, we brainstormed ideas for a better lore and fleshed out Viktor's character beyond his background information. I am sure Riot noticed this and that we will be answered. And if they don't (highly doubt it), it is still nice that we worked together.

For new comers and Viktor enthusiasts, I urge you to look through the thread, as it is an interesting read.

Here are some related links:
Jayce's Lore (Revised), by Zalmout
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2313926

Change Jayce's Lore before release, by the Machine Herald himself
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2313271

Jayce will be a great jungler/ganker, by Treeke
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2313702

My new Jayce Lore (With a twist!), by MoSBanapple
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2314329

ITT: We Jaycify other lores, by OXYCLEAN WORKS (I do not endorse malice. I do, however, find it hilarious.)
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2314776

Jayce's lore, NEW, by Untouchable
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2314747

League Judgment - Jayce, the Hero of Everything, Forever, by Renekton Bot
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...php?p=26484121

The Lore forum, which deserve more recognition
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/...splay.php?f=32

And of course, the Many Names of David Ryder, by MST3K
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY

And, speaking of MST3K, I'd like to tell you the Mantra: "It's just a show; I should really just relax."

Jayce Lore: Updated, by the Lore Team
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2339770
EDIT2: Mission accomplished. Our perseverance has been repaid and Jayce's lore will be revised. This is a good day to be mechanical man.

EDIT3"

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Originally Posted by RiotRunaan (Hozzászólás 26514731)
Still here!

Stay tuned, guys. We're still re-evaluating and working on this, we haven't forgotten your concerns.

It's good to know that you haven't forgotten.

If I recall correctly, Riven's abomination of a picture got changed after she was released, so hope is not lost.

Edit4: 100 pages, 1000 posts. And confirmation that the lore has been changed. Each one of you deserves a medal.

EDIT5: Good news, everyone! The lore has been changed and the portrayal of both champions is more than adequate, bringing satisfaction to Viktor fans and portraying Jayce (Formerly known as Dirk Hardpecks) as a better character. Celebrations! Cheese for everyone!

Lisztomaniac 07-03-2012 12:54 AM

i suport this, jayce's lore is so boring and simple, it read as something i could have come up with while taking a shower when i was 12 yo. also:

"Dirk Hardpec's" i lold.

note: im not a viktor fan, but he had an interestinng lore/personality going for him.

Borkcire 07-03-2012 12:54 AM

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Bump and pic of the lore.

Aelexe 07-03-2012 12:57 AM

I agree, it seems a shame to have one characters lore poop over another's like this.

EDIT - Saddening to see the lore went in with the patch unchanged.

Team Viktor, blasting off again!

IS1859f07a52f3056afbe15 07-03-2012 12:58 AM

Wow. It's kinda sad how Viktor went from being an underdog scientist to a cheap villain. I actually like Viktor's lore.

Garnet 07-03-2012 12:59 AM

THIS WAS TOTALLY THE LORE RELATED CHAMPION WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO RIOT

farts

Noodlesofdoom 07-03-2012 12:59 AM

lol simplify up the story:

Jayce took a **** on Viktor, now he's chilling.

XElement 07-03-2012 01:00 AM

Edit: never mind what i said, read Jayce's background.

Wtf riot.
I love viktor.
He was a good man " His previous hope to better society was replaced by an obsession with what he called "the glorious evolution."" who just had everything stolen from him. And he himself fell into the darkness.

But, really? Make him some pity comic super villan? I love VIktor, but this lore for Jayce is GOD AWFUL.
Not only is it anything special (since he is #100) You make Viktor sound like some stupid villian who sucks.

Steals some tech (kinda like what happened to himself). Dude doesn't get help from higher ups (just like what happened to VIktor) so the dude gears up to stop Viktor. Enters and forces him to flee.....

I mean...kinda put Viktor's lore into Jaye but made Jayce into a good "hero" while viktor became evil and now a villian?
Also...I dont know. They way I view viktor. He would NEVER steal technology from others.
I believe he would make it himself and wouldn't even have ot bother with others tech.
Some Machine Herald. Stealing others work and then loses fairly easy? Woo way to ruin Viktor's lore.

CDIfan 07-03-2012 01:01 AM

according to viktors lore someone stole his inventions and took credit

seriously this is such lazy writing

T8te 07-03-2012 01:01 AM

In other news his Glorious Evolution continues with Augmented Singed


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