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Dotch 04-26-2012 02:32 PM

Need help on AP YI ! ! !
 
ty all for reading this.
so recently i started playing ap yi (i used to play ad)... but i really suck at it...and theres one point i really dont get.
What do u do after alpha striking(if not one hit kill)???

should u follow ur team or can u 1v1 an enemy?

will it be better if build CD reduction? cuz it will shorten alpha strike CD.

pls help.
if necessary, pls note how to play him(ap yi).

-Andy

FaerellG 04-26-2012 02:45 PM

After alpha strike: retreat.

Learn where you end up after the AlphaStrike:
You will end up standing next to the initial champ/minion you targeted. Where you bounce to has no effect on where you end up.

If your initial target dies before your AlphaStrike animation reaches it, then you'll return to where you were standing when you initiated AlphaStrike.

But yeah, in general, After you alpha strike, auto attack once...maybe twice, and run unless you really think you can finish them off. Try to que up your Passive so you get extra damage in. lichbane proc will also make you hit harder.

If you're pretty certain you'll kill them, pop your ulti and AlphaStrike in, then immediately AlphaStrike again.

Dotch 04-26-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaerellG (Hozzászólás 23653807)
After alpha strike: retreat.

Learn where you end up after the AlphaStrike:
You will end up standing next to the initial champ/minion you targeted. Where you bounce to has no effect on where you end up.

If your initial target dies before your AlphaStrike animation reaches it, then you'll return to where you were standing when you initiated AlphaStrike.

But yeah, in general, After you alpha strike, auto attack once...maybe twice, and run unless you really think you can finish them off. Try to que up your Passive so you get extra damage in. lichbane proc will also make you hit harder.

If you're pretty certain you'll kill them, pop your ulti and AlphaStrike in, then immediately AlphaStrike again.

should i add some CD reduction?

FaerellG 04-26-2012 03:02 PM

I would say yes. CDR helps you recover when you fail to kill with your Ult+AlphaStrike

kaleb bartlett 04-26-2012 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyOOO (Hozzászólás 23654149)
should i add some CD reduction?

I usually try to get it with lucidity boots and DFG for another button to press.

Dotch 04-26-2012 03:09 PM

Ok thx. but one more question.. ad better or ap?
ad: better 1v1? carry?
ap: pentakill? teamfights?

Ebonclaw 04-26-2012 03:17 PM

AP Yi is a gimmick. IF you can get into a teamfight with no enemy minions around, AND your team can burst someone down practically without your assistance, then you MIGHT be able to get an Alpha reset off of the first kill, and then continue your chain. Best case scenario the enemy team will be dead so fast they will cry hacks. If it doesn't work, you are practically -worthless- to your team, and they will heckle you as you run away from the enemy team to try to defend towers solo since all your mates just died in a glorified 4v5.

I general practice, he is trying to do the same thing as Kat does, but he's just not as good at it because he only has -1- fking nuke. 1 nuke. Stop it.

Dotch 04-26-2012 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebonclaw (Hozzászólás 23654947)
AP Yi is a gimmick. IF you can get into a teamfight with no enemy minions around, AND your team can burst someone down practically without your assistance, then you MIGHT be able to get an Alpha reset off of the first kill, and then continue your chain. Best case scenario the enemy team will be dead so fast they will cry hacks. If it doesn't work, you are practically -worthless- to your team, and they will heckle you as you run away from the enemy team to try to defend towers solo since all your mates just died in a glorified 4v5.

I general practice, he is trying to do the same thing as Kat does, but he's just not as good at it because he only has -1- fking nuke. 1 nuke. Stop it.

ok...

Afraa 04-26-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebonclaw (Hozzászólás 23654947)
AP Yi is a gimmick. IF you can get into a teamfight with no enemy minions around, AND your team can burst someone down practically without your assistance, then you MIGHT be able to get an Alpha reset off of the first kill, and then continue your chain. Best case scenario the enemy team will be dead so fast they will cry hacks. If it doesn't work, you are practically -worthless- to your team, and they will heckle you as you run away from the enemy team to try to defend towers solo since all your mates just died in a glorified 4v5.

I general practice, he is trying to do the same thing as Kat does, but he's just not as good at it because he only has -1- fking nuke. 1 nuke. Stop it.

have to dissagree. If something can work and with good result consistantly in the correct situations that does not make it a gimmick. minions are not that big of an issue as many teamfights happen at blue dragon or baron. The key to ap yi is positioning and team comp.

HonorableGeneral 04-26-2012 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afraa (Hozzászólás 23655851)
have to dissagree. If something can work and with good result consistantly in the correct situations that does not make it a gimmick. minions are not that big of an issue as many teamfights happen at blue dragon or baron. The key to ap yi is positioning and team comp.

That's sort of the issue, though. If the enemy team sees you going AP Yi, they'll force team fights near minions to reduce your output potential. You'll end up seeing more aggressive lanes forcing you to alpha strike them while they push, in order to prevent you from wandering off into the river or jungle and forcing fights where there's no minions to take the fall.

AP Yi's random-factor makes him one of the most hit-or-miss champions in the game. If you're strong enough to force fights where there are no minions, you'll most likely win. But if you end up being forced to fight against a team backed up by minion waves, you'll do decent damage at best and almost no damage to champions at worst.


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