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Sir Tuskalot III 04-20-2012 09:29 PM

ashe good in twisted tree line 1v1?
 
Ashe suckes in 1v1s

Chaiyns 04-20-2012 10:42 PM

how does fighting 1v1 have anything to do with TT specifically?

GrimCrimson 04-21-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaiyns (Hozzászólás 23448497)
how does fighting 1v1 have anything to do with TT specifically?

He means 1v1 in a lane

and ashe sucks in 3v3

Spekktre 04-21-2012 12:18 PM

I get called OP as Ashe in TT often, I dunno why everyone says she's so bad. and Ashe will destroy in a 1v1 as long as there are no gap closers (like Jax, Yi, or Xin for example)

I start with volley at lvl 1, get frost shot to lvl 2, then get my bird, from then on it's frost shot until it's maxed. Once it's level 4 no one can get near you if you can kite properly (again unless they're gap closers)

Her early harassment can be absolutely brutal, especially if you're soloing the top lane. I've many a time been lvl 6-7 by the time they hit lvl 3-4, giving her easy kills from then on (start with ult, run in, volley, and get a shot off for usually about half their hp if you have a level advantage, so it's a great way to kill them after some harassment when they try to get near the minions)

when not in the solo lane your money's gonna come mostly from assists since you can slow enough to let your allies rip them apart.

Last shotting is easy as hell with Ashe once you get used to her.

now all that, on top of how many allies you can save with your slow. I've countless times had to escort an ally away from the enemies while holding them off with volley and frost shot just so they won't catch the guy who's almost dead, this happens nearly every game at least once.

I really dunno why no one likes ashe, she's so brutal once you fully understand how to approach each type of champ with her. She requires completely different tactics (harassment tactics, escape tactics, kiting tactics) depending on the type of enemy she's fighting.

Killers297 04-22-2012 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=Spekktre;23464626]I get called OP as Ashe in TT often, I dunno why everyone says she's so bad. and Ashe will destroy in a 1v1 as long as there are no Good AD Champ(like Jax, Yi, or Xin for example)
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Ashe too easily ganked with low damage output and exhuast then ad carry she is dead.

lirm 04-22-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Spekktre (Hozzászólás 23464626)
I get called OP as Ashe in TT often, I dunno why everyone says she's so bad. and Ashe will destroy in a 1v1 as long as there are no gap closers (like Jax, Yi, or Xin for example)

I start with volley at lvl 1, get frost shot to lvl 2, then get my bird, from then on it's frost shot until it's maxed. Once it's level 4 no one can get near you if you can kite properly (again unless they're gap closers)

Her early harassment can be absolutely brutal, especially if you're soloing the top lane. I've many a time been lvl 6-7 by the time they hit lvl 3-4, giving her easy kills from then on (start with ult, run in, volley, and get a shot off for usually about half their hp if you have a level advantage, so it's a great way to kill them after some harassment when they try to get near the minions)

when not in the solo lane your money's gonna come mostly from assists since you can slow enough to let your allies rip them apart.

Last shotting is easy as hell with Ashe once you get used to her.

now all that, on top of how many allies you can save with your slow. I've countless times had to escort an ally away from the enemies while holding them off with volley and frost shot just so they won't catch the guy who's almost dead, this happens nearly every game at least once.

I really dunno why no one likes ashe, she's so brutal once you fully understand how to approach each type of champ with her. She requires completely different tactics (harassment tactics, escape tactics, kiting tactics) depending on the type of enemy she's fighting.

This.

So long as Ashe has a hard CC tank on her team, or is played by someone who knows what they're doing, Ashe is amazing anywhere.

Ofcourse, you get the derp's over extending their lane with nowhere to go playing her and everyone cries about how bad she is. That's not her being bad, thats the summoner being a derp.

If you play a squishy, always have an exit stratergy.

Extallion 04-24-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Spekktre (Hozzászólás 23464626)
I get called OP as Ashe in TT often, I dunno why everyone says she's so bad. and Ashe will destroy in a 1v1 as long as there are no gap closers (like Jax, Yi, or Xin for example)

I start with volley at lvl 1, get frost shot to lvl 2, then get my bird, from then on it's frost shot until it's maxed. Once it's level 4 no one can get near you if you can kite properly (again unless they're gap closers)

Her early harassment can be absolutely brutal, especially if you're soloing the top lane. I've many a time been lvl 6-7 by the time they hit lvl 3-4, giving her easy kills from then on (start with ult, run in, volley, and get a shot off for usually about half their hp if you have a level advantage, so it's a great way to kill them after some harassment when they try to get near the minions)

when not in the solo lane your money's gonna come mostly from assists since you can slow enough to let your allies rip them apart.

Last shotting is easy as hell with Ashe once you get used to her.

now all that, on top of how many allies you can save with your slow. I've countless times had to escort an ally away from the enemies while holding them off with volley and frost shot just so they won't catch the guy who's almost dead, this happens nearly every game at least once.

I really dunno why no one likes ashe, she's so brutal once you fully understand how to approach each type of champ with her. She requires completely different tactics (harassment tactics, escape tactics, kiting tactics) depending on the type of enemy she's fighting.

Although ashe is queen in sr she cant do well in tt.
Reason is obvious, mostly a hyper ad carry with gap closer goes top.

K K0 04-24-2012 11:24 PM

ashe is good 1v1 if you use her properly and kite. Not good against olaf or assasins though.

Sam 04-25-2012 12:18 AM

Pantheon or GP would probably kill her before she even walks to lane. Ashe has no sustain, takes awhile for her to get damage. Her slow isn't even that strong until max level. So ashe really isn't a strong choice at all. . .

GodAintListening 04-25-2012 03:03 AM

I disagree, Ashe is great when she has a good team that has a tank with heavy CC. Did I mention with a good team? A good team is absolutely vital to her succeeding, if her team is lacking, she's lacking and if she's lacking, then she's feeding because there's no one that could back her up. She has no sustain and does poor damage early game, if she doesn't have a good team, she doesn't have a good game. Simple as that.


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