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Abedeus 05-30-2011 01:53 AM

I have a great idea for a new champion!
 
Okay, get this. His Q, would be a single-target point and click. It would deal little damage, but at level 5 has a very short cooldown.

Hmm, sounds weak. Okay let's keep going.

His W would give him nice defense, where enemy can't really do much, but DoTs still work to make it balanced. He can still move.

...Okay, so Zhonya's passive without the immobility thing? Well, that makes up for his Q.

And his E would deal moderate AoE damage, but be risky to cast due to high cost!

Well it's okay I guess. What's his ultimate?

Oh, it's a delayed AoE nuke that increases by a tiiiny bit damage done of those affected, by like 10% or so.

Pretty good champion overall, eh?

WRONG! Let's make his Q heal him. And cost nothing. 1.5 second cooldown with no CDR. And his W will heal him too, and deal damage. And his passive gives him free AP for HP items, free HP for AP items.

What's the rest of the "making of Vladimir" dialog? Because honestly, I can't think of ANYONE thinking "this sounds balanced", especially when you have a dozen of mages, Swain and Cho'Gath (if you go AP) being the only ones who can sustain themselves in lane forever. I think the worst part is the "no HP cost on Q". Annie can't stun you forever, since her skills cost - if she uses Q on you, she doesn't regain mana. Veigar can't stay in line even with his passive for more than few minutes. Also he needs to farm OR harass. Can't do both.

And if any caster goes low HP, he needs to go back to heal. Vladimir with spell vamp just uses Q and in 10 seconds he steals all of his HP back...

HyogaGanso 05-30-2011 01:55 AM

oh wait. wut?

redlightman 05-30-2011 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Abedeus (Hozzászólás 9397761)
I can't think of ANYONE thinking "this sounds balanced"

Karthus:
Q: A spammable ability with virtually no cost, a decent ratio, and decent base damage.

W: An AoE move that can be constantly turned on that does high damage over a short time and refunds mana upon something dying making it even easier to keep it up.

E: An AoE 80% slow along with a sizable armor and MR reduction.

R: Hits every enemy champion currently alive.

Passive: Guarantees he has at least 7 seconds in a team fight meaning you have to take the time to kill him and then still have to deal with him afterwards. Plus, unlike other mages, he doesn't have cooldowns on a damaging ability longer than 1 second.


Everyone can sound imbalanced.

Zoram 05-30-2011 02:10 AM

there is a forum dedicated to this, please look better next time.

Abedeus 05-30-2011 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by redlightman (Hozzászólás 9398014)
Karthus:
Q: A spammable ability with virtually no cost, a decent ratio, and decent base damage.

W: An AoE move that can be constantly turned on that does high damage over a short time and refunds mana upon something dying making it even easier to keep it up.

E: An AoE 80% slow along with a sizable armor and MR reduction.

R: Hits every enemy champion currently alive.

Passive: Guarantees he has at least 7 seconds in a team fight meaning you have to take the time to kill him and then still have to deal with him afterwards. Plus, unlike other mages, he doesn't have cooldowns on a damaging ability longer than 1 second.


Everyone can sound imbalanced.

The issue here is that Karthus still uses mana, his AoE burns it like hell. Take away mana regain and he's trash tier. Also, Karthus is one of the slowest champions in game at level 1.

His Q is a skillshot that doesn't damage instantly, and his wall doesn't slow 80% before level 11+. Unless you max wall first.

Vladimir ALWAYS maxes Q, and E. His pool doesn't even have a reason to put more than 1 point early, neither does E - after level 9, all Vlad does is spam Q all day long, last hitting AND harassing AND sustaining him in lane. If Karthus gained life on dealing damage with Q, yes, he would be OP as hell. Or if his AoE gained mana back while it was activated.

Also can't remember how many times a Karthus almost got a kill with his ult, but he was short on mana. Vlad will NEVER be unable to use Q.

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Originally Posted by vox1st (Hozzászólás 9398021)
there is a forum dedicated to this, please look better next time.

You're a moron for not even bothering to read.

bloodthírsty 05-30-2011 02:35 AM

inb4 OP lost lane to Vlad QQ

Pr0we 05-30-2011 02:50 AM

Im not going to back this up but it sounds pretty gay tbh

Sorrowed 05-30-2011 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus (Hozzászólás 9398345)
The issue here is that Karthus still uses mana, his AoE burns it like hell. Take away mana regain and he's trash tier. Also, Karthus is one of the slowest champions in game at level 1.

His Q is a skillshot that doesn't damage instantly, and his wall doesn't slow 80% before level 11+. Unless you max wall first.

Vladimir ALWAYS maxes Q, and E. His pool doesn't even have a reason to put more than 1 point early, neither does E - after level 9, all Vlad does is spam Q all day long, last hitting AND harassing AND sustaining him in lane. If Karthus gained life on dealing damage with Q, yes, he would be OP as hell. Or if his AoE gained mana back while it was activated.

Also can't remember how many times a Karthus almost got a kill with his ult, but he was short on mana. Vlad will NEVER be unable to use Q.



You're a moron for not even bothering to read.

His point was that anyone can SOUND OP with the correct wording. And Vlad can still succumb to hard CC.

Twangykid 05-30-2011 02:56 AM

Well, Twitch can GO INVISIBLE! DoTs make this fair, but INVISIBLE! CAN'T BE TARGETED!
He also has a AoE slow with a MASSIVE RANGE! But thats ok, because he has to hit them to slow much.
He also has a AoE DAMAGE ABILITY! WITH A BIGGER RANGE! But thats fine, he has to hit them to do damage- OH WAIT, his ULT hits the WHOLE TEAM!

WHOS IDEA WAS TWITCH? OP NERF.

You can make anyone sound OP.

Iateurcookie 05-30-2011 02:56 AM

What a horrible new champion idea, he sounds exactly like Vlad!

<.<

>.>


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