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Lord Ezel 01-25-2013 10:23 AM

Spell Vamp in ADs?
 
I was thinking, that we need an item which could give Spell Vamp, but more oriented to AD champs. This items could grant more lane sustain to some AD casters (Zed, Urgot, Lee Sin), because the only way they can have a good sustain is with Life Steal, and tons of potions. Anyway, i would like an item like this:

Blade of the Warrior:
*Build from: Long Sword + 470G
*Stats: +15 AD, +12% Spell Vamp

I think this item could be good for Sustain-less AD champs.

ROOOOOAST 01-25-2013 10:36 AM

1) ad + spell vamp combination would make ad caster even stronger, and there is enough people complaining.

2) 750 gold for 15 ad and 12% spell vamp? OP

Lord Ezel 01-25-2013 10:51 AM

With the upcoming Armor-Ap Item, AP will be fine, AD won't be so strong, but, AP can have Spell Vamp, but ADs can't?
Maybe i made a miss-math with the numbers, i need to fix it

Vuther 01-25-2013 11:21 AM

Spell vamp might be used by AD casters in lane, but it would be abused rather the likes of bruisers such as Olaf and Udyr in both lane and teamfights.

Kholdstare13 01-25-2013 11:27 AM

Just ask your AP for WotA.

Yuan Shikai 01-25-2013 12:06 PM

Riot has multiple times confirmed that spellvamp on ad items is essentially inefficient and a noobtrap and that lifesteal is ALWAYS better for ad champs, even for those who do the majority of their damage with skills.

so there's that.

Lord Ezel 01-25-2013 12:11 PM

Imagine this...
Zed, an ad caster, with melee range, and no abilities that scale with AP. He's fighting vs a ranged enemy, and he's low. Wota is a waste for him, because he doesn't need AP, and he will not put himself in range of the enemy to gain health with Life Steal, so, why he should leave the lane, loose XP and farm, to recover HP, and waste gold to buy 4-5 pots?, with an AD Spell Vamp Item, he may recover some HP to stay in lane, at least, a little bit loner

JustMyBassCannon 01-25-2013 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Ezel (Hozzászólás 33888297)
Imagine this...
Zed, an ad caster, with melee range, and no abilities that scale with AP. He's fighting vs a ranged enemy, and he's low. Wota is a waste for him, because he doesn't need AP, and he will not put himself in range of the enemy to gain health with Life Steal, so, why he should leave the lane, loose XP and farm, to recover HP, and waste gold to buy 4-5 pots?, with an AD Spell Vamp Item, he may recover some HP to stay in lane, at least, a little bit loner

First of all, Zed's core spells all let him attack at a distance. There's nothing forcing him into melee.
Second, they're all AoE, so Zed would only receive 1/3 of Spell Vamp's effect per target.
Third, Spell Vamp has been proven to help bruisers more than assassins, and bruisers are already in a good place, so buffing AD casters will have to be done in other ways (like Black Cleaver, hint hint).

If you want Spell Vamp that badly, ask your AP to build WotA. They scale with it perfectly, and you get free stats; who cares if YOU can't use the 30 AP? You didn't pay for it.

Meshly 01-25-2013 01:32 PM

Maybe bring back the Pillager?
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wik...m%27s_Pillager

The stats are good but more meant for people like Renekton than the Black Cleaver which is more meant for guys like Talon.

Quadradactyl 01-25-2013 01:47 PM

Lawyered
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Ezel (Hozzászólás 33888297)
Imagine this...
Zed, an ad caster, with melee range, and no abilities that scale with AP. He's fighting vs a ranged enemy, and he's low. Wota is a waste for him, because he doesn't need AP, and he will not put himself in range of the enemy to gain health with Life Steal, so, why he should leave the lane, loose XP and farm, to recover HP, and waste gold to buy 4-5 pots?, with an AD Spell Vamp Item, he may recover some HP to stay in lane, at least, a little bit loner

Waste money on pots? Sustain in lane is never a waste. They are 35 gold a pop, kill a few soldier creeps and boom money is made back. You say 4 - 5 pots. that's only 175 gold, that's it. Kill a wave and get the last hits and there you go. If you are struggling in a lane then pick up a philo stone, kages or avarice blade for the extra gold.

With Zed get either: Avarice. You get a little extra gp10 as well as extra gold from last hitting, or get a Philo for more gp10 and health recovery and maybe a few pots.

Philo gives you half a gold a second, after 87.5 seconds you have just made the money back from those 5 pots and after 5.833 minutes you made back the money for the philo. So rounding up that is 7 minutes with a philo stone plus pots and now it is turning a profit.

Once you are good then sell it and buy other equips, simple as that.

BOOM...Lawyered


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