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AK47WOLF 01-19-2013 04:43 PM

A warning; something more people should consider.
 
If, at the beginning of the match:

1) You are AFK. NOT disconnected, NOT never-connected-in-the-first-place, but AFK. This includes: tabbed out looking at porn, taking a leak (doesn't take the sum of the loading time + 1:30 start time to take a piss), actually afk, or any other reason...

as well as...

2) Our team ends up losing the game...

You're getting reported. Especially if it's only by a few points - some points that we likely lost because we lost windmill at first because you were gone.

Harvester 01-20-2013 12:42 AM

Do you have any proof that teams have a higher chance of losing if they lose the initial windmill fight? One of the best parts of dominion (in my opinion) is how possible it is to make a comeback. That being said, do you have any proof that losing the initial windmill fight puts your team at a disadvantage? I understand the logic behind your point, however I do not think a single battle that early on makes a huge difference if the teams are even and if your team is actually trying.

NamKim 01-20-2013 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harvester (Hozzászólás 33680877)
Do you have any proof that teams have a higher chance of losing if they lose the initial windmill fight? One of the best parts of dominion (in my opinion) is how possible it is to make a comeback. That being said, do you have any proof that losing the initial windmill fight puts your team at a disadvantage? I understand the logic behind your point, however I do not think a single battle that early on makes a huge difference if the teams are even and if your team is actually trying.

You are completely missing the point of the original post...

In fact, you saying
Quote:

I do not think a single battle that early on makes a huge difference if the teams are even and if your team is actually trying
is a dead giveaway that you did not read carefully since the whole point of the post is that the teams were not even and this created an obvious disadvantage.

Rather or not the Windmill fight would have changed something is irrelevant. What is relevant is that there was a player on your team that was AFK FOR REASONS WITHIN HIS CONTROL at a crucial time. The other team had an obvious advantage that led to them getting an early lead. If the game was very close, then suddenly the Windmill fight was incredibly important.

Plus, if your team decided to do a 3v4 windmill fight, the enemy team had a huge gold advantage since it is obvious they would have won that fight with little trouble. There are times when I was one man short on my team and my team decided to just give up the windmill and immediate gank bot since we knew we would lose windmill and we figured we might as well deny them the easy gold.

In Dominion, every part of the game is important. Being gone for five minutes is pretty much being gone one-fifth of the time. That's like playing a Summoner's Rift game and having someone be gone for 10 minutes, which is majority of the laning phase. The lanning phase, the part of the game where you level up, farm, and buy the foundation for your powerful late game items. Meaning, if you were gone during this time, you screwed your team over for the rest of the game. At least on SR, you can snowball incredibly hard and make up the slack. In Dom, it is incredibly hard to get to that snowball level.

Edit: Also, often times, AFK'er are gone way longer than just the windmill fight. I've had ones who came back as late as five seconds before the game ended.

RBeckham 01-20-2013 05:32 AM

Yeah, I don't think reporting is going to do any good because you can't tell that they afked for the first minute or two of the game in the Tribunal.

But you should be able to. It's totally unfair and uncool that people just tab out, come back after the game starts and you've lost windmill.

Catnium 01-20-2013 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBeckham (Hozzászólás 33685358)
Yeah, I don't think reporting is going to do any good because you can't tell that they afked for the first minute or two of the game in the Tribunal.

But you should be able to. It's totally unfair and uncool that people just tab out, come back after the game starts and you've lost windmill.



report does help , they build a case first and trust me if someone has multiple accounts of being afk most tribunals would take your word for it and hit the punish butten i always do

Palladine 01-20-2013 10:44 AM

However, on the opposite side of this, going top to fight a 3v4 with an AFK 4th on your team probably isn't the best strategic decision.

Whenever I have an AFKer on my team, I ask my team to take 2-3 people bottom and kill the enemy bot laner and take that point. That often offsets the amount of points that would have been lost by the automatic teamfight loss that would have been fought top.

SirLucious LftFt 01-20-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBeckham (Hozzászólás 33685358)
Yeah, I don't think reporting is going to do any good because you can't tell that they afked for the first minute or two of the game in the Tribunal.

But you should be able to. It's totally unfair and uncool that people just tab out, come back after the game starts and you've lost windmill.

when im doin tribunal and this situation happens where there is no proof its about how many ppl reported. If there is no proof but all 5 enemies and 4 allys are saying he was AFK then who needs proof.

even if they are lieing(unlikeyly for that many) he must have rubbed enough ppl the wrong way to get all 9 or so other ppl to report him AFK


and to people saying that one fight doesnt matter. if u lose by 1-20 points how doesnt 1 fight mattter lol

THAT IS LITERALY 1 MORE POTENTIAL NODE CAPTURE AWAY FROM VICTORY THAT IS 1 FIGHT WIN lol.....

in a close match is exactly when THAT 1 FIGHT mattered

Purpleskoal 01-20-2013 11:48 AM

If the first windmill fight didn't matter people wouldn't run revive.

smXho 01-21-2013 03:50 AM

Who needs porn when you have Ezreal in your team?

NamKim 01-21-2013 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smXho (Hozzászólás 33722917)
Who needs porn when you have Ezreal in your team?

I don't know if I should up-vote or down-vote -.-


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