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-   -   The implementation is done, but we want the map to have a chance to mature First (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2951452)

VoidInsanity 12-28-2012 06:34 PM

The implementation is done, but we want the map to have a chance to mature First
 
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Originally Posted by Brackhar (Hozzászólás 15177954)
Depends on how things shake out balance wise really. The implementation is done on the back side, but we want the map to have a chance to mature enough before we flip the switch.

The map has Matured, hit puberty, got married, had kids, plastic surgery, hit menopause, got divorced, got re-married and died alone in a cold dark room while telling its grandchildren stories of how it spend its day being probed in the void with the void.

While there is no ranked, there is no way to keep the balance. With no ranked there is no-one for the community to aspire to as they are just "normal" players. With no ranked us the people who care and actually want to play dominion don't want to play because of the hour long queue times for the game to be ruined by the resident talentless "insert overpowered thing we cannot ban or counterpick because there is no ranked here"

This has gone on long enough. The criteria is met, it's been over an entire year. The metagame is stable, flip the switch.

AK47WOLF 12-28-2012 06:38 PM

The metagame may be stable, but something needs to be done about tanky derps, because they outclass everyone.

VoidInsanity 12-28-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AK47WOLF (Hozzászólás 32938596)
The metagame may be stable, but something needs to be done about tanky derps, because they outclass everyone.

I can tell you many stories grandchild of what the true horrors of dominion are but please continue being ignorant. Last thing we need is more scunk jumping out from over the wall to show grandma dominion what you think "love" is.

Kiddalee 12-28-2012 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AK47WOLF (Hozzászólás 32938596)
The metagame may be stable, but something needs to be done about tanky derps, because they outclass everyone.

Nuh uh. Squishy mages need to build tankier than in SR and that's fine because they get CDR this way anyways. Squishy AD carries need teammates who can protect them and need to kite well. These champions are harder to pick up but are amazing when played properly. Mages in particular add variety to your team's damage and make you harder to counter.

Hardware 12-28-2012 07:02 PM

This is exactly what we need.
The EUW scene has already become a stagnant shadow of it's former self.
RIOT, START THE REACTOR!

Redenbacher 12-28-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by voidinsanity (Hozzászólás 32938474)
...and died alone in a cold dark room while telling its grandchildren stories of how it spends its day...

ಠ_ಠ

Therlun 12-28-2012 07:12 PM

The overwhelming majority of SR players has no interest in ranked mode. Why should it be different for Dominion? Why should SR players, who by any measure are overwhelmingly disinterested in playing SR ranked themselves start playing Dom because of ranked mode?
Ranked-Dom would work well enough and personally I see little reason not to activate it. But I also don't see much benefit for Riot or the gamemode itself from implementing it.

How many players would ranked Dom have after two weeks? 100? Half as many? And how many will have been driven away by a very dedicated, skilled and teamed up group of 20-30 players who take the first three places every single week in the DD tournament? The same group that successfully, mercilessly farmed Elo when Jabebot made it visible. The group that made players friend them explicitly to not queue up unless they were in a game already?

Draft mode is dead not because it lacks competitiveness in a visible Elo number. It's dead because it's a pain to play and the benefits (bans) don't outweigh the drawbacks (lack of players to matchmake with, premade unbalance, waiting time).
I understand people who like Dominion and want it to grow and prosper, I'm one of them. I don't understand why the implementation of ranked is the holy grail for so many people though. There is no reason to assume that it would vitalize Dom, except for blind hope.

grandmastad 12-28-2012 07:12 PM

with ranked, dominion will be more balanced with the permabans out of the game :/

Tempestphile 12-28-2012 07:36 PM

(╯°□°)╯︵ --/ o--

VoidInsanity 12-28-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Therlun (Hozzászólás 32939686)
I don't understand why the implementation of ranked is the holy grail for so many people though. There is no reason to assume that it would vitalize Dom, except for blind hope.

  • Everyone who currently cares about dominion will switch.
  • It will no longer be blind pick, so no blind counterplays ruining games
  • You can see what you are up against, so you can counterpick accordingly.
  • There are now bans, so no random kassa's etc ruining every game.
  • All the "Bad Rats" that just spam kassadin. etc will no longer plague the queue and can no longer ruin games for current players or turn away new ones by abusing them.

Ranked fixes all of the above. Attracting new players is a potential bonus, but not the goal. The goal is to make life better for the current players of dominion.


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