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Pratz Strike 12-10-2012 11:14 AM

Lost 2% Accuracy And 30 Cases In 3 Days
 
I'm not sure if I'm just way the hell off base but I've gone from 89.2% accuracy down to 87.3% today in the past three (EDIT: My math seems off after thinking about it - 100 cases is 5 days, so we'll say that instead) days, and my wrong decision number's jumped from about 55-60 to 90. After counting, I've got 18 cases in the past 100 wrong - 9 are Minority and within my normal margin of error, but there's 6 Very Fews and 3 Almost No Ones, all of which I Punished instead of Pardoned. I'll link them here with a short description - can anyone tell me what I missed or what I got wrong for the decision to go so far against me?

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6008764/
This one was probably a bad call on my part, but I remember looking at that first game and thinking '2/16/6 in a 38 to 50 game? If it's not intentional feeding it sure looks like it.' I know bad play isn't punishable, but it's actionable as Unskilled Player.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6009943/
Game 1: Spends all game bashing Katarina.
Game 2: Caitlyn [00:16:52] which is understandable cause the rest of u suck tbh
Caitlyn [All] [00:32:55] rest of u are bads
I can go on.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6009590/
Game 2: Shaco [00:28:13] have to leave
And he's gone for the last 5 minutes of the game. Same thing happens halfway through game 5. Add to this minor cursing at his team in 3 and 4.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6016614/
Game 1: "gg" at 14:51, 27:39, 28:30, "noob" at 28:39.
Game 2: Honor requests not 18 seconds in.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribun.../6020224/#nogo
Game 2: Is a jerk with the 'you cry so much' comments later.
Game 3: "you suck" Right at the end, in all chat, talking to the enemy team. Unsportsmanlike.
Game 4: "I am too high for this." I don't mind weed and I don't mind alcohol. I mind high and drunk people coming on to play and screwing up repeatedly because they can't react as quickly as people without dampened reflexes.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6024435/
Ziggs [All] [00:17:13] try harder ****
What the ****, yo.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6023267/
Game 1: Mordekaiser [00:23:01] me fakc you ma
Mordekaiser [00:23:08] malzahar me fack you
Nope. Unacceptable.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6029540/
Game 1: Garen [All] [00:18:39] u lcuky hoee!!!
Garen [All] [00:28:32] chase me hoe!
Hoe = ho = *****. I don't think I know any women who like being called *****s.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/tribunal/case/6030021/
Game 1: Ezreal [00:17:03] but u noob
Ezreal [00:19:18] riven noob
Nope. She did much worse than he did, but that's no reason to call her a noob. Build up your team, don't tear them down.
Game 2: Katarina [All] [00:00:42] noob team
42 seconds in and she's berating her team. This continues throughout the match. Also, there was a conflict in mid - even if she called it first, sportsmanlike conduct would state that she at least make an offer to change to another lane. I don't get that here.



All of my decisions were made following the Golden Rule - "Don't Be A Jerk". I determined that these people were all jerks, and I wouldn't want to play with them. Can anyone explain why they all got such high pardon marks?

SchierkeWiking 12-10-2012 11:28 AM

It's funny how all those trolls and ragers come here to complain about us being insta punishers, but in my experience the great majority of wrongly judged cases are pardons. I would say that in between 80-85% of my missed cases I voted punish and in 70-75% the offense was absolutely obvious.

The only answer that I can find are trolls that come to insta pardon all cases and end up affecting some.

Mitey Oosik 12-10-2012 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SchierkeWiking (Hozzászólás 32284169)
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The only answer that I can find are trolls that come to insta pardon all cases and end up affecting some.

But that requires coordinated effort of monumental proportions, the trolls aren't that organized or smart.

Unless they have some sort of underground "Troll Club", and you know what the first rule of that is...........

Icetrukiller 12-10-2012 12:20 PM

I made a thread about a similar problem.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/....php?t=2865427

Aparently some judges only look at the first game of the case.

Jesustim 12-10-2012 12:50 PM

I can tell you right now that in an ideal world you're getting more inaccuracies because the tribunal judges are getting more discerning. for one thing, I can tell you unless I see something blatant like 0/29/0 I will never punish an "intentional feeding report" without strong evidence. You can't judge in-game actions from a chat screen and post-game stat sheet, its simply idiotic. "unskilled player" is something that straight up shouldn't be reportable for a punishment, its a dumb and easily exploited identifier. Certain phrases a-la hoe, bro, etc can be controversial but if in the spirit of the game and not directly intended to cause harm are perfectly OK.

Ironically enough your highly judgmental attitude breaks your own golden rule of dont be a jerk, if you're going to nitpick apart individual lines or pairs of statements as a suitable ground to judge an individual's overall league presence you're practicing the logical fallacies of generalization and over simplification.

Pratz Strike 12-10-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesustim (Hozzászólás 32286708)
Certain phrases a-la hoe, bro, etc can be controversial but if in the spirit of the game and not directly intended to cause harm are perfectly OK.

But that's not in the spirit of the game. As I would not call somebody a ho, I would not want to be called a ho. We're trying to follow the Summoner's Code here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesustim (Hozzászólás 32286708)
Ironically enough your highly judgmental attitude breaks your own golden rule of dont be a jerk, if you're going to nitpick apart individual lines or pairs of statements as a suitable ground to judge an individual's overall league presence you're practicing the logical fallacies of generalization and over simplification.

... but that's what I'm here for, to discern whether or not these people were being jerks. I think they are, that's how I voted. Nitpicking the logs is what you've got to do sometimes.

Great Pyrenees 12-10-2012 01:49 PM

I lost 1.5% accuracy in 3 days because of some mass Pardons going on in the tribunal. Every single case was guilty and every single case said I was in the minority or very few. This is very disturbing.

Great Pyrenees 12-10-2012 01:51 PM

I think the kickback from Iwilldominates banning is having a very adverse affect on the tribunal right now. I was on a streak of 40 then when he was banned almost immediatly I started missing cases left and right. There is some serious bs going down in the tribunal with these Instant Pardoners. I hope riot bans them all because a false pardon hurts good reporters!

Skellzors 12-10-2012 01:52 PM

Keep voting punish on ones you think should be punished, it sucks when these go through, but it's the most we can do.

Great Pyrenees 12-10-2012 01:59 PM

I have a solution but a RED needs to read and address this NOW. Immediatly the top 1000 judges need to be the ONLY ones allowed to judge cases! This is the only way to stop these pardon trolls from ruining the tribunal! Who is with me?


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