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LahooZaher 12-04-2012 05:23 PM

Singed is now unbeatable
 
Seriously. He was already the easiest champion to play. Build hp. Turn on poison. Walk around. That's it. No skill involved, never have to aim anything, don't have to sacrifice survivability for damage. It's all reward with no risk.

So now lets take out the ONE item that has any effectiveness on him, Bloodrazer. Now tell me, without that is there ANY champ that can kill a Singed with 2 or 3 RoA before his poison kills them? He doesn't even have to attack. He can literally just walk in circles shrugging off your damage while his poison kills you. It's ridiculous. I mean, MAYBE Vayne, if it was 1v1 and she was really good at dodging out of his poison trails. Maybe. But it would still take FOREVER, and if at any time singed looks like he might be losing he just walks away. So she can't kill him, she can just MAYBE survive a 1v1 fight with him.

Why take the ONE item that even resembled a counter to him away? Now he is, without contest, the best top champion, and unless he is really bad, will be a huge disruption in every teamfight. Can't focus him because he won't die. Can't ignore him because his poison will eat away half your hp. Can't spend all of your focus micromanaging you champ out of his poison because then the rest of his team picks you off.

What counter is there?

TealNinje 12-04-2012 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LahooZaher (Hozzászólás 32094224)
So now lets take out the ONE item that has an effectiveness on him, Bloodrazer.

The one item that Singed autocounters is somehow the one item that has "an effectiveness" (any real effect)?

LahooZaher 12-04-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TealNinje (Hozzászólás 32094306)
The one item that Singed autocounters is somehow the one item that has "an effectiveness" (any real effect)?


Typo. Mean't to say 'any'.

Zombiemaster 12-04-2012 05:31 PM

A Singed that builds HP without resistances is not that smart. Pure HP doesn't make you a tank, and Singed doesn't get that much armor and MR from his ult. And even if he does build full HP, Vayne will take him down quickly because her true damage scales off of max.

If you're looking for a replacement, there is one: Blade of the Ruined King. It deals a percentage of their current HP in damage. That damage may not be as strong as MBR, but it also gives you lifesteal for half of the damage you deal. Plus it's active is awesome.

KobaltKode 12-04-2012 05:54 PM

Any AP with a dot and Liandry's Torment poops on health stacking...PERIOD!

He is capable of running torment as well! It isn't very well known, also not that useful considering that he doesn't benefit from it's core stats, but he can also build the new elder lizard spirit stone. His poison trail, actually procs as AoE magic damage on it's first tick before it registers the dot...Meaning his trail with the item will add the true damage per tick!

MarcusGraves 12-04-2012 06:18 PM

ROFL bloodrazor's never worked vs tanks anyway and why should it? tanks build bunch of MR anyway pretty much negating its damage even xypherous said it was a noob trap item. items to beat tanks will always be % armor and magic pen items.

i never understood why people thought bloodrazor's would even impact tanks that natually build MR

CerealBoxOfDoom 12-04-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LahooZaher (Hozzászólás 32094224)
Seriously. He was already the easiest champion to play. Build hp. Turn on poison. Walk around. That's it. No skill involved, never have to aim anything, don't have to sacrifice survivability for damage. It's all reward with no risk.

So now lets take out the ONE item that has any effectiveness on him, Bloodrazer. Now tell me, without that is there ANY champ that can kill a Singed with 2 or 3 RoA before his poison kills them? He doesn't even have to attack. He can literally just walk in circles shrugging off your damage while his poison kills you. It's ridiculous. I mean, MAYBE Vayne, if it was 1v1 and she was really good at dodging out of his poison trails. Maybe. But it would still take FOREVER, and if at any time singed looks like he might be losing he just walks away. So she can't kill him, she can just MAYBE survive a 1v1 fight with him.

Why take the ONE item that even resembled a counter to him away? Now he is, without contest, the best top champion, and unless he is really bad, will be a huge disruption in every teamfight. Can't focus him because he won't die. Can't ignore him because his poison will eat away half your hp. Can't spend all of your focus micromanaging you champ out of his poison because then the rest of his team picks you off.

What counter is there?

irelia walks past him and still kills the carry.

Singed has been countered

Aubheron 12-04-2012 07:08 PM

Ignore Singed, kill everything else. Problem solved.

TealNinje 12-04-2012 07:31 PM

A good Singed won't let you ignore him.

Even Irelia can't tank 4 people bashing away on her and kill her target, and she can't expect any help from her teammates because Singed's freaking annoying.

Jesus the Friend 12-04-2012 07:42 PM

Madreds Bloodrazor was a terrible item.

If you were building it to "Counter Singed" you were a terrible player to begin with.


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