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Renkairu 11-05-2012 04:18 AM

I do like the new TT but... (Altars)
 
It's very fun and more engaging and there is far less turtling involved. As usual though, one good Ace and any team can push through all turrets to the nexus and win. Frustrating, but c'est la vie.

I do like the jungle as it is a great way to get some farm if your lane gets overextended and it respawns quickly which is great. I also enjoy Vilemaw as the tough boss to kill, especially later in the game; though, I do miss having a minor boss for a kill and minor buff/boost though. Also, the altars are a fun event as well, but my broken thing I find about them is that once it's claimed, it's always claimed till the opposing team takes it over. Since they do offer a rather strong buff when both are held, I find it a bit lop sided that they never expire, in a sense. I do feel that maybe they should have a timer on them that ticks down after they unlock before they go neutral again.

For a suggestion, as such, you claim an altar, it locks, and then it does count down to unlocking. You can visually see this by the runes around the altar. Once it unlocks, the timer on it begins again as it ticks back down to being neutral. The timer can be recharged to it's full capacity again by standing on the altar again, as to claim it normally.

I feel this could work both for and against the map feel as it could unwillingly put more pressure on the altars, which I know a good majority of the community hate. But since I feel they are here to stay, this could also incorporate quicker fights and make it more of a higher risk/reward. Keep the buff, or lose it. And as for matches that do end up in some turtle instances, this would be giving the defensive team another chance to get ahead since the offensive team would have to send a member to the altars to keep them with their buff, or continue to engage while losing it.

Just an idea I wanted to throw out to the community here with thoughts and input on things. =) Any other ideas or suggestions? Would be very great to have a Red's thought on this!

Malvarian 11-05-2012 04:31 AM

I think the map would be great if the altars and speed buff were removed, and wards were brought back (maybe w/ reduced vision?)

I like the altar idea but a tank/bruiser team will ALWAYS have them... a team of AP ranged characters can't force them off the altar fast enough to keep the buff.

Purgex 11-05-2012 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Malvarian (Hozzászólás 31065664)
I think the map would be great if the altars and speed buff were removed, and wards were brought back (maybe w/ reduced vision?)

I like the altar idea but a tank/bruiser team will ALWAYS have them... a team of AP ranged characters can't force them off the altar fast enough to keep the buff.

So don't use a full team of AP Ranged characters?
You don't need to use a triple bruiser team, a balanced team works perfectly fine. A bruiser, a tank, and a carry and you'll be fine.

Malvarian 11-05-2012 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Purgex (Hozzászólás 31065737)
So don't use a full team of AP Ranged characters?
You don't need to use a triple bruiser team, a balanced team works perfectly fine. A bruiser, a tank, and a carry and you'll be fine.

I should've been a little clearer... I mean if you have tank/ranged AD/AP, and your tank isn't there to go stand on the altar while ranged AD and AP are firing on the altar, you won't be able to stop it, even if it's just their tank and a bruiser up there.

The map with a balanced team becomes stacked in the altar sense if you're playing low HP vs high HP, simply because most ranged AD and AP can't just sit up there and take hits.

Infirc 11-05-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Malvarian (Hozzászólás 31065664)
I think the map would be great if the altars and speed buff were removed, and wards were brought back (maybe w/ reduced vision?)

I like the altar idea but a tank/bruiser team will ALWAYS have them... a team of AP ranged characters can't force them off the altar fast enough to keep the buff.

i'm not against altar and speed removal but i'm against anything that gives JAx or Lee sin more power. theya re already broken enough.

Renkairu 11-05-2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Infirc (Hozzászólás 31069626)
i'm not against altar and speed removal but i'm against anything that gives JAx or Lee sin more power. theya re already broken enough.

I wouldn't say broken; but, they are strong, however.

Snoop Nome 11-06-2012 09:56 AM

Altars are getting a few "nerfs" in the upcoming 1.71 patch. After that, we'll be re-evaluating some systems level changes to both altars and speed shrines that should make them less favorable to bruisers.

KevinDelMarr 11-06-2012 10:15 AM

I wonder what people think of if after Altars became unlocked, they went back to being neutral instantly, so a team that captures both can't indefinitely seige after capping both. Would add more pressure around the altars and give teams a choice of capping a point for sustained advantage, or continuing a tower seige

JETxGREEN 11-06-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by RiotNome (Hozzászólás 31112679)
Altars are getting a few "nerfs" in the upcoming 1.71 patch. After that, we'll be re-evaluating some systems level changes to both altars and speed shrines that should make them less favorable to bruisers.

alters shouldnt give a permanent buff for as long as they are controlled they should be a timed buff like every single buff in this game. This would help to eliminate the type of advantage they are giving. Its just rewarding a team for already being in a strong position if they are able to defend both and eliminating a chance for the other team to come back.

TOP10 ELO 11-06-2012 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RiotNome (Hozzászólás 31112679)
Altars are getting a few "nerfs" in the upcoming 1.71 patch. After that, we'll be re-evaluating some systems level changes to both altars and speed shrines that should make them less favorable to bruisers.

making it less favorable to bruisers will also make them less favorable to all other champions ;)


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