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A bouncy Furret 10-07-2012 11:18 PM

Black Cleaver is a lot stronger than people give it credit.
 
Too bad it still doesn't hold a candle to IE and BT.

Egotistica 10-07-2012 11:19 PM

It's still only a Vayne item.

Major Jae 10-07-2012 11:20 PM

Goes well with corki too

Ginga 10-07-2012 11:22 PM

I think it works with Twitch's ult. That sounds nice on him.

Sybil Cut 10-07-2012 11:22 PM

That said, it's more effective than Last Whisper unless they have 100+ armor. Gives more AD, gives AS, shreds more armor.

It also costs 600g more, but overall Black Cleaver is a better item than Last Whisper.

mogonk 10-07-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kačl (Hozzászólás 30010168)
That said, it's more effective than Last Whisper unless they have 100+ armor.

So it's more effective against their ADC and MAYBE their support, and much, much worse against everyone else.

And it's more expensive.

Yeah, great item.

Bloodpaly 10-07-2012 11:30 PM

Cause people have sub 100 armor for soooooo much of the game.

Vo0d0ochild 10-07-2012 11:31 PM

I like it on Kayle jungle

Whisla 10-07-2012 11:34 PM

its more effective as a team item as well. adc and jungle eat when one has a bc
less armor = more dmg on everyone

Sybil Cut 10-07-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mogonk (Hozzászólás 30010199)
So it's more effective against their ADC and MAYBE their support, and much, much worse against everyone else.

And it's more expensive.

Yeah, great item.

Well, keep in mind, the armor reduction is a debuff and not a static armpen, which means it might be more viable if a dual ADC meta ever evolves (because one could run BC and they could focus fire). As of now though, with tanky bruiser, mid building survivability and tanky bruiser jungle usually, it's hard to justify building it with the mass amount of armor running around. So I see what you mean, but the item definitely has standalone merits.


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