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Economicz 10-06-2012 05:52 AM

Did the easy access to player statistics greatly influence the tournament?
 
There are websites such as lolking and lolmatches that give huge insights into the runes, masteries and champion choice of players. I watched the interview with Chaox by Nick Allen and Chaox talked about how they had a secret plan to play Katarina, but it got banned out. Nick Allen noted that nobody knew about them planning to play Katarina. There are threads on the forums throughout this tournament saying things like "where the heck did that Orianna ban come from?". During every Taipei Assassins match the shoutcasters talked about how the team trained using secret scrimmages where they and the other team would quit the game so it would look like it never happened.
It seems that this tournament was decided more off the field than on, not that that's a good or a bad thing. It's the teams who exploited (To employ to the greatest possible advantage) all the available data on players that have been succeeding in the World Playoffs.

Sir Yamazuki 10-06-2012 05:55 AM

Nothing wrong with using available resources, research and some thinking is always helpful.

Menea6587 10-06-2012 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Economicz (Hozzászólás 29938970)
There are websites such as lolking and lolmatches that give huge insights into the runes, masteries and champion choice of players. I watched the interview with Chaox by Nick Allen and Chaox talked about how they had a secret plan to play Katarina, but it got banned out. Nick Allen noted that nobody knew about them planning to play Katarina. There are threads on the forums throughout this tournament saying things like "where the heck did that Orianna ban come from?". During every Taipei Assassins match the shoutcasters talked about how the team trained using secret scrimmages where they and the other team would quit the game so it would look like it never happened.
It seems that this tournament was decided more off the field than on, not that that's a good or a bad thing. It's the teams who exploited (To employ to the greatest possible advantage) all the available data on players that have been succeeding in the World Playoffs.

That's how it is in every game, every sport, and every competition. "Knowing is half the battle" isn't some idiom that people made up; it's 100% accurate.

Feladorzor 10-06-2012 06:02 AM

Exploited is a negative term. The teams who took the time to research their opponents obviously had an innate advantage in deciding counter-plays or bans. It's a two-way street though, one team will only have an advantage if the other team doesn't bother doing the exact same thing.

It's not like the teams that lost were barred from doing research of their own.

CTkiller 10-06-2012 06:04 AM

Not their fault that teams from NA stream everything they possible can

Drewbie 10-06-2012 06:07 AM

unless you're TPA who goes out of their way to make sure their matches cant be seen by other teams

Infirc 10-06-2012 06:10 AM

Most sports teams do that, you wont see an American football coach not studying the History of the team his team will face next, previous tournament placements, favorite lane-ups and strategies, that's how they assign defenses to block certain offense layers and plan offensive tactics to block the good defenses on the team so that their team can break their defenses and advance some yards.

Billyraye 10-06-2012 06:17 AM

I would call it preparation and statistical analysis as opposed to exploiting. The second definition of exploited is: To make use of selfishly or unethically. there was nothing selfish or unethical. Any team has access to this data. As far as TPA not showing match results, again any team can do this. Don't hate because they were smarter about it then most teams.

TrappaKeepa 10-06-2012 06:31 AM

I don't think it's much of a problem. It just means teams need to have multiple strategies in their playbook. If you can development complementary strategies where a counter play to one of your game plans is very weak to a second game plan, you have nothing to worry about.

In football, it's kinda like the play action pass. If the opposing team sells out to stop the run, you burn them by acting like you'll run the ball, then you throw it.

Okabe1 048596 10-06-2012 06:41 AM

Do you watch sports? Researching your opponents is a vital part of any sport. This isn't *exploiting the system* or anything along those lines. It is simply trying to increase ones chances of success by as much as they possibly can.

Would you rather see solo queue bans and what not? I know I wouldn't. Champion select is a huge part of the game, or at least its way more important than you seem to think it should be.


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