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Godly Ray 09-24-2012 05:25 PM

Champions Alignment
 
Sorting out the alignments between champions (good, neutral & bad). Feel free to help me guys, since I'll probably be wrong with most of them.

Good
Akali, Anivia, Ashe, Caityln, Corki, Ezreal, Fiora, Galio, Garen, Heimerdinger, Irelia, Jarvan IV, Jayce, Karma, Kassadin, Kayle, Kennen, Lee Sin, Leona, Lulu, Lux, Master Yi, Nunu, Poppy, Rumble, Shen, Shyvana, Sona, Soraka, Taric, Teemo, Tristana, Tryndamere, Vayne, Volibear, Wukong, Xin Zhao, Ziggs

Neutral
Ahri, Alistar, Amumu, Blitzcrank, Evelynn, Gragas, Graves, Janna, Jax, Karthus, Malphite, Nasus, Olaf, Pantheon, Rengar, Renekton, Ryze, Sivir, Skarner, Twisted Fate, Udyr, Varus, Vladimir, Xerath, Yorick, Zilean

Bad
Brand, Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Darius, Diana, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Fiddlesticks, Katarina, Kog'Maw, Le Blanc, Malzahar, Morgana, Nocturne, Shaco, Singed, Sion, Swain, Syndra, Talon, Urgot, Veigar, Viktor, Warwick

Uncertain
Fizz, Gangplank, Hecarim, Maokai, Ms. Fortune, Mordekaiser, Nautilus, Nidalee, Orianna, Rammus, Riven, Sejuani, Trundle, Twitch, Zyra





Feel free to assist me with the ones I'm uncertain with.

mhaetsts 09-24-2012 05:34 PM

Ms. Fortune is good i believe because she is a pirate hunter

Ask Talon 09-24-2012 06:28 PM

Talon is Neutral Evil / Lawful Evil

Ask Mad Chemist 09-24-2012 07:24 PM

Singed is Lawful Evil.
Also I think Viktor is Lawful Neutral or True Neutral.

Ask Talon 09-24-2012 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ask Mad Chemist (Hozzászólás 29604950)
Singed is Lawful Evil.
Also I think Viktor is Lawful Neutral or True Neutral.

There is no way he is lawful evil. At all.

Shanock 09-24-2012 07:39 PM

I haven't read all of the lore, only the profiles, but here's my take on some characters.

From the character profile, Kayle is from the faction that "proclaimed themselves as beings of perfect order and justice, fighting to unite the world under their law and strong central governance," while Morgana opposes those "who would sacrifice individuality and freedom for the illusion of efficiency and safety."

From this, I tend to think of Kayle as leaning towards evil. Much of the evil done in this world comes from people who, believing themselves right, try to force others to do things their way in the name of some possibly well-intentioned yet f*'d up self-aggrandized sense of justice or order. Think crusaders and conquistadors, jihadists, communists, socialists, and imperialists, etc.

Morgana opposing this and taking the fall for standing on principle, in my view, makes her at least neutral, if not good.

Similar story between Leona and Diana. Light and dark are stereotypically good and evil respectively, but how can a faction be good, that denies truth and persecutes detractors of dogmatic falsehood? Not that Diana is good either, but she was at first and her downfall is a direct reaction to evil acts of the Iron Solari.

I don't know that characters like Lulu, Fiora, Wukong, Sona, and others are good. Maybe they are on the "good" side, but they themselves have no good cause - they fight for the sake of fighting. They could have just as easily ended up on an "evil" side like Fizz, if circumstances had been different.

I guess I tend to consider the neutral/good people those who only use violence to defend themselves and those who wish to live freely and peacefully, while the evil ones are those who try to control or initiate force or violence upon others for any other reason.

Ask Mad Chemist 09-24-2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ask Talon (Hozzászólás 29605228)
There is no way he is lawful evil. At all.

...how come? he is either that, or neutral evil, tough he has never had problems with the law lore wise.

Ask Talon 09-24-2012 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ask Mad Chemist (Hozzászólás 29605710)
...how come? he is either that, or neutral evil, tough he has never had problems with the law lore wise.

Lawful means that he follows something, be it the law or a moral code of some sort. He's a mercenary, so most likely he's going to be True Neutral or Neutral Evil.

LordHippoman 09-24-2012 09:34 PM

Alistar is definitely good. He does charity events and only fought because he had to.

You could call Fizz good, after he rescued an entire city that rejected him.

I'm going to go ahead and call Diana neutral too, because she didn't really do anything wrong. She found some new knowledge and the oppressive elders tried to put her to death for it. Theocratic executions are generally not on the good side. All Diana wants is to spread her belief in the Lunari after the Solari condemned her to death.

Kog'Maw isn't really evil so much as he is confused. He doesn't want to hurt anybody or have a specific goal in mind, he's just hungry.

I think it's a safe bet that Gangplank is a villain. He did murder his father and is notorious for shooting his own crewmates.

Morde is almost certainly evil, he gets off on suffering and death.

DrTemptragon 09-25-2012 03:34 AM

Beep boop morals thread.

Honestly, I think Noxus's Meritocracy is more my personal alignment of "good" than Demacia's strict law monarchy. This boils down to "Demacia and Noxus are pretty neutral".

They used to be good and evil, but the Lore has been getting more and more grey. This is kinda good!

Also, Viktor is not evil. At all.

I'd say Morde and Hecarim are evil, given their "herald of future horrible things" vibes.

I'm not sure I agree with a lot of your alignments. But it's a tricky thing to judge.


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