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kavinh the third 06-14-2012 08:18 PM

Is max CDR worth it?
 
Yeah exactly how useful is it and is it worth whatever u buy/runes or masteries to get it.

Several of the easiest ways to get 40% CDR involve 9/21/0 on the mastery trees along with cdr/lvl blues giving u 20% at lvl 18 which only requires u to build 1 20% cdr item to easily obtain the 40%. and in exchange u lose 9ap/27ap at lvl 18 or around 15ish MR.

So exactly how useful is CDR in ur opinion is it actually worth the trouble to get it aside from a specific few champions or is it just playstyle base

cpandarun 06-14-2012 08:29 PM

In general I don't think it's a stat that you need to itemize for. The only champs I could see really wanting capped cdr from runes masteries and items would be support. Mid gets blue enough and you can always buy a blue pot to bring you very close to the cap.

Folly Inc 06-14-2012 08:34 PM

There are a great deal of champions that benefit from max CDR, and it -is- exceptionally powerful on tanky teams.

corallein 06-14-2012 08:56 PM

CDR is vastly overrated.

Yes, it's a good stat, but there tons of reasons why it shouldn't be a primary focus.
CDR runes are a waste of space that are better off allocated to other stats.
The CDR masteries are all good as long as you're going down that tree to begin with (except the offense tree one for AD/physical damage champions, since that gives the least per point and the 10% magic pen is useless for them).
And with few exceptions, items should never be primarily purchased for the CDR they give. Rather, if your champion can make good use of CDR, there is always at least one item that gives a good value in other stats that you need that you can purchase.

Buying additional CDR items with lackluster stats just to reach the 40% cap is not a good idea. The difference between 30% (which is easy to naturally reach) and 40% is minor.

XCodes 06-14-2012 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by corallein (Hozzászólás 25358696)
Buying additional CDR items with lackluster stats just to reach the 40% cap is not a good idea. The difference between 30% (which is easy to naturally reach) and 40% is minor.

This depends on the Champ. For most AP Carries, I completely agree. For some supports like Soraka, it's worth it to go for 40%. Also, any non-energy hero that has a game-changing spell that their entire hero is based around can also benefit from the extra 10% CDR since that means they get that spell that much more often.

Wolfalisk 06-14-2012 10:10 PM

I only think CDR is obscenely useful on champions with "windows". For example, at a certain CDR, Urgot can fire an extra acid hunter while they are still affected by Noxian Corrosive Charge.

Kaoelith 06-15-2012 12:13 AM

most ad, bruiser tops and ad/bruiser junglers can do without cdr since they use auto attacks for a good chunk of damage

ap's tanks and supports are reliant on spells for the most part and need cdr
most tanks normally just get a glacial shroud>frozen heart
supports get it naturally from support items such as zekes, shurelyas reverie, ect.
aps are most situational depending on the champion, the only two real items that offer cdr for an ap that are useful are DFG(great item overall for aps) and athenes unholy grail, which depends more if the champ has mana problems even with blue

blue buff counters more cdr problems for ap mids

Skyliner 06-15-2012 01:31 AM

Talon says hi.

4% CDR from offense
5.89% from flat blues
15% CDR boots
15% Ghostblade

then build 4 blood thirsters and 100% to 0% anyone but Malphite.

Then go back to malphite 33 seconds later and kill him with your ult again.

Powerstoned 06-15-2012 01:33 AM

It's good to max cdr on champs that are mostly building auras and use their abilities only for utility.
soraka, alistar, janna, taric can be good examples. Cdr is good, but building it when you should be building damage is a nono, like ad carries who only build for speed in the first 25 minutes.

Etherimp 06-15-2012 03:14 AM

Mordekaiser and Vlad should itemize for 40% CDR.. Why? Because their damage output is only limited by their cooldowns.

CDR is also very viable on a lot of other Tanky AP Champs, like Amumu, Chogath, etc.


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