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Kiddalee 01-26-2012 04:17 PM

Nashor's Thread Plug
 
Hey, Dominion folks. I think you can give me better advice than the trite **** I've gotten yet. Here's the thread: "Is Nashor's Cost Effective Now?"

Edit: They censor the "c" word. Oh lol.

Kiddalee 01-26-2012 04:41 PM

Boosh!

Euthrosyne 01-26-2012 04:46 PM

Just run a quick stat/cost analysis on it to answer your question. Probably has been done already, but I'll do one here. What do you mean by now, though? Lowering the price by 100 and increasing the AP by 10 made it more cost effective just by virtue of those additions, but to what end do you seek additional cost effectiveness?

Stats:
65 AP
50% AS
10 Mreg
25% CDR

Amp. Tome: 20 AP, 435 gold --> 1414 gold
Dagger: 15% AS, 420 gold --> 1400 gold
Meki: 3 mren, 180 gold --> 600 gold
CDR has no basic item, but assuming 10% CDR is worth 450 gold (Elixir of Bril), then you have another 1125 gold worth of CD. It's not a good approximation at all.

So, yes, as the posters from before say, it is cost effective, but why are you thinking about it?

Yaladilae 01-27-2012 12:41 AM

Does it matter that much?

Not much champs benefit from it, and for the one it does, its always been an useful item (think Kayle)
And having its cost lowered only means those champions have a little extra gold to spare!

Basoosh 01-27-2012 05:58 AM

I still am not a fan of it, especially on Dominion. Too much money burnt on MP5. Rest of stats are awkward and only fit a select few champions. I still don't like it on Kayle even (although, just plain Stinger is nice for her).

EMeta 01-27-2012 06:31 AM

Once we get dominion bots so I can try stupid builds without feeling bad, I was going to try it on Teemo, Kog, & maybe Fizz. It is crazy gold-efficient now, & Kitae just isn't that useful against most team comps, so I was going to try Nashor's instead. Does that make any sense?

Aroyok 01-27-2012 06:31 AM

I use it on Orianna along with Malady. I used to run Zerker Greaves too, but CDR boots + Nashor's = 40% CDR, and Ori definitely needs CDR. Mp/5 helps her from ooming all the time and AS and AP...dat passive...

Warrrrax 01-27-2012 06:34 AM

In theory it is cost effective, but its an odd combination of stats.

MP5 is pretty much a waste on dominion. Thats 600g worth thrown out the window.
25% CDR is awesome, no doubt there.
50% AS is great.
65 AP is fine.

But even champs like JAX don't really love it because he needs survivability which this does not provide.
Ditto with Kayle.
Sion focuses on AD or AP, not both.

Its a fine item that doesn't really have a target audience. Even teemo doesn't use it anymore.

lbgsloan 01-27-2012 06:37 AM

Cost effective? Yes. Useful? No. Such a random collection of stats that nobody wants. If they tossed out the regen and lowered the cost accordingly, you might have something. Even then there's maybe 3-4 champions who MIGHT consider it.

Needs to reworked into an AD item IMO. Make an item with moderate AD, CDR, and AS and you'd have a winner.

Kiddalee 01-27-2012 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lbgsloan (Hozzászólás 20236605)
Cost effective? Yes. Useful? No. Such a random collection of stats that nobody wants. If they tossed out the regen and lowered the cost accordingly, you might have something. Even then there's maybe 3-4 champions who MIGHT consider it.

Needs to reworked into an AD item IMO. Make an item with moderate AD, CDR, and AS and you'd have a winner.

To take out the mana would make it too easy for AD casters to max their CDR without wasting money. I'm pretty sure there is a reason why only four CDR items without mana/regen exist.


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