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11Apparition11 12-27-2011 01:20 PM

Tiamat
 
So as everyone knows, tiamat is useless. The reason it is useless is because of the mana/health regen (worthless on a non-tank/ad) and the attack damage that isn't worth the price. Also, the splash is too small.


Ask yourself, what team will clump together in a team fight?




One idea i had to remake this is to make it like Volibear's ult. Maybe not lighting, but something like Sivir's Ricochet or Kat's Bouncing blades. And during a fight, the effect prioritizes enemy champions. As for the stats, maybe increase the AD by 15 and give some attack speed/crit, maybe even some ARP. Just my 2 cents


Also, on a scale of Hue to Hue, where would you place tiamat?


Edit: why down votes?


Tiamat is not viable. Think of it not just in normal/ranked games, but also as a real item used in tournaments. Think of a team comp and when it's ACTUALLY useful. I really can't think of one.

11Apparition11 12-27-2011 01:22 PM

P.S- Maybe a new item icon :D?

Myrmidont 12-27-2011 01:23 PM

its the only source of true damage from items right?....thats something!

Ryuujinmaru 12-27-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrmidont (Hozzászólás 19011638)
its the only source of true damage from items right?....thats something!

Quote:

true damage
No.

11Apparition11 12-27-2011 01:26 PM

Maybe a stat/effect rework, and lower the cost?

Rage Virus 12-27-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrmidont (Hozzászólás 19011638)
its the only source of true damage from items right?....thats something!

It's not true damage.

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Originally Posted by 11Apparition11 (Hozzászólás 19011520)
So as everyone knows, tiamat is useless. The reason it is useless is because of the mana/health regen (worthless on a non-tank/ad) and the attack damage that isn't worth the price. Also, the splash is too small.


Ask yourself, what team will clump together in a team fight?




One idea i had to remake this is to make it like Volibear's ult. Maybe not lighting, but something like Sivir's Ricochet or Kat's Bouncing blades. And during a fight, the effect prioritizes enemy champions. As for the stats, maybe increase the AD by 15 and give some attack speed/crit, maybe even some ARP. Just my 2 cents.

The cost of the item is very fair for its stats. You pay very little extra to gain AE damage. The problem is that you only have 6 slots for items and the fact that the AE is pretty small.

Roy Trenneman 12-27-2011 01:27 PM

It really is just a joke item at this point...

Inb4 TIAMAT MUNDO IS OP MORELLO NERF NAO PLZ

11Apparition11 12-27-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yohobojz (Hozzászólás 19011784)
It really is just a joke item at this point...

Inb4 TIAMAT MUNDO IS OP MORELLO NERF NAO PLZ

Lool

MisterMoogle 12-27-2011 01:30 PM

Go try tiamat on Sion.
If you're teamfighting , go ult and you aoe everyone.
If you have one health, ult and attack a wave of monster.
500 health per second - 800.
You do 200 but you hit everyone.

Zero000x000 12-27-2011 01:31 PM

No, the regen has nothing to do with why Tiamat is bad (well, maybe a little, but unimportant). The main problem with Tiamat is that the splash range is too small. It won't hit anything. So when you buy Tiamat you pay 300g for a passive that's useless outside of farming. ADs don't have problem farming and won't get it because they have BF items to build to scale better. Tanky-dps don't have problem farming, so something that gives raw AD isn't really that useful. If the splash can hit at least one other target, Tiamat would be incredibly good. But since it can't except in cases like having a Galio, it's not worth getting because it doesn't boost scaling for ADs. ADs maximize damage, Tiamat doesn't offer any extra damage.

To person above me, the splash does not apply lifesteal, or any other on-hit effects. The splash will carry over damage from crits though.


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