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-   -   [Guide] Jungle Malphite - Hes Better than Warrick! =P (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=12019)

VoidInsanity 09-15-2009 05:33 PM

[Guide] Jungle Lord Malphite -The Anti-Warick =P
 
Intro


Jungling Malphite has alot of positives over Warrick or any other jungler, of which I shall list. Keep the following in mind.

The Positives

1 - Not Dependant on Damage or AP. Like Fiddlesticks he is not dependant on Damage or AP to jungle.

2 - Low Risk. Unlike other junglers you are a Tank Hero and ganking you will be extremely hard for anyone todo. Granite Shield recharges between camps lowering the overall damage you take by a ton.

3 - Better Team Presence. Once you leave the jungle you have at your disposal a Ranged AoE stun that puts you in a tanking position, a spamable -Attack speed debuff and a single target slow, and they HURT =P

4 - You Overpower other junglers. If you happen to find yourself 1v1 at level 1 vs another jungler you will win. That simple. Only 1 who "might" cause you trouble is a Fiddlesticks, but not if you dodge his lifeleeching ability before you start pounding on him. The non caster junglers of Rammus, Jax, Blitzcrank and the "so called best jungler" Warick will cower in fear. If Warick is a king, Malphite is an Overlord.


The Negatives

1 - Dependant on Smite. Without smite jungling will be very hard for you early on, as your damage output without the Golem Buff is very low.

2 - Dependant on Golem Buff. Without it, You cant spam Ground slam meaning you cannot kill neutrals meaning you cannot jungle. If you do not have the Orge buff you will be forced to lane as you will jungle too slow, even if you use Mana Potions.

3 - Cannot Solo Baron. So dont even try it! =P



The Basics

Starting Items

1x Elixir of Fortitude
5x Health potion


Elixir of Fortitude is essential to jungle with. It practically doubles your HP which also doubles absorbing power of Granite Shield. The health potions are mainly to keep your HP up, you will be tanking the neutrals to jungle and have no way to recover health through skills like Warrick and Fiddlesticks. Feel free to Gank or assist and use a Health Potion or 2 afterwards, normally you will use only around 3 when you jungle.


Recommended Runes + Masteries

9/0/21 is staple, getting the -9% cooldown from masteries and then filling up with the remaining 6% from runes, giving you the max of -40% when you slay the golem. This reduces your Ground Slam cooldown to 4.8 seconds, which is essential to farm with, as it is your main source of damage and it improves your Effective Hitpoints as it makes neutrals attack you slower. Dodge also helps alot, you should be able to get 11% or so from runes if you use all 9 + Quitesence.



Recommended Summoner Spells.

1 - Smite - THIS IS A MUST. Without smite, I would not recommend going to jungle.
2 - Heal - You are tanking neutrals so you will be taking alot of damage, this also helps protect you against ganks.
3 - Rally - Not as Good as Heal IMO as it is not instant and you are not dependant on Physical damage to kill neutrals. However it is still good and does allow you to have a better team presence.
4 - Ghost - Does not help you jungle, but can be very useful in escaping ganks and ganking.


Skillbuild

Take Ground Slam at level 1, Brutal Strikes at level 2. For level 3 onwards the priority is to Max Ground Slam followed by Sesmic Shard, taking Unstopable Force at level 6-11-16. Brutal Strikes level 1 is taken early on because it is cheap to use and 30% extra damage 66% of the time for 55 mana is a bargin, not the mention to the 30% cleave. However after getting 30% at level 1 the Cleave + damage boosts scale by only 5/10% per level and the mana cost goes up a ton, hence this skill is maxed last.



Items of Choice

Up to you. I strongly advise Sunfire Capes, as they improve your Tanking presence and synergise very very well with your skillset and role as a tank in general. You do NOT need to buy Madreds Razors, so do not waste your gold on one, you will barely notice the difference.


Basic Jungle Procedure

Spam Ground Slam, keep your HP up, use Brutal Stikes when you have the spare mana. Don't forget to let your Granite Shield recharge Between camps. Start with the Golem, then work your way around. You should be able to kill every neutral camp at least once before your elixir wears off without any problems, including the dragon. After level 6 gank whenever Unstopable Force is off cooldown.





Ok Any questions? =P

Phyxx 09-15-2009 10:09 PM

This guide really sucks, unless you want to get 6.5k hp and be invincible. Other than that... complete rubbish.

VoidInsanity 09-15-2009 10:30 PM

Ah so you was in that game eh? HA =P I still feel sorry for that Warick that went to jungle.....

Actually thats another positive to using Malphite, I'll add it to the list.

Vengeance 09-15-2009 10:46 PM

nice guide, not a bad idea to be overpowered and destroy almost all classes with over 7k life..... but none the less, a good jungle strategy

SmecssRaege 09-16-2009 12:27 AM

Eh

I'm sorry but i really highly disagree with 2 things:

Warwick the king of the jungle? No, not at all.
Malphite the king of the jungle? No, i wouldn't say that either...

Then who is it....

Amumu.


The way i jungle on amumu, i dont waste any summoner skill on ****
(i run flash and teleport)

Killing golem/lizard elder at lvl 4
Dragon at lvl 6 (so far my record was dragon dieing at 9:03, done today..my average dragon kill time is 12 minutes though)



But without sounding like a complete dill knob, i will say that the guide isn't bad, fairly well structured, bolded titles, well done, well put together, and kudos for bringing another hero to the jungling world :-)

VoidInsanity 09-16-2009 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmecssRaege (Hozzászólás 123398)
Eh

I'm sorry but i really highly disagree with 2 things:

Warwick the king of the jungle? No, not at all.
Malphite the king of the jungle? No, i wouldn't say that either...

Then who is it....

Amumu.


The way i jungle on amumu, i dont waste any summoner skill on ****
(i run flash and teleport)

Killing golem/lizard elder at lvl 4
Dragon at lvl 6 (so far my record was dragon dieing at 9:03, done today..my average dragon kill time is 12 minutes though)



But without sounding like a complete dill knob, i will say that the guide isn't bad, fairly well structured, bolded titles, well done, well put together, and kudos for bringing another hero to the jungling world :-)



With this I can do dragon in under 4 minutes after neutrals spawning at level 4/5. 12 minute dragon is rather slow IMO. Amumu is a good jungler I will agree, prob as good or slightly better than Warrck as he is not dependant on a certain setup.



Thanks for the feedback.

SmecssRaege 09-16-2009 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChronicleX (Hozzászólás 123437)
With this I can do dragon in under 4 minutes after neutrals spawning at level 4/5. 12 minute dragon is rather slow IMO. Amumu is a good jungler I will agree, prob as good or slightly better than Warrck as he is not dependant on a certain setup.



Thanks for the feedback.

Well technically speaking yes, that is a slow dragon kill, but the reason behind that is because of my summoner skills being non jungle related, and my rune build being non jungle related (Dodge, Armor Penetration, MP regen) , and my mastery tree being 21/9/0 instead of 0/21/9 or 0/21/9

I jungle, and am still fully effective in the heat of any combat, at any level of the game

I imagine if i actually built myself for the jungle, i would only become a fiercer competitor in the wilds ~_^

But yeah, I'm kind of curious to see a malphite jungler, i've only seen 1 person attempt it and they failed miseably o_o;

You definately seem to have hit it on the right track though, almost intrigued enough to say throw me on friends and lets play sometime :3 (Also i've barely ever seen a good malaphite, and i'd love to see what a good one can do :-D )

VoidInsanity 09-16-2009 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmecssRaege (Hozzászólás 123447)
Well technically speaking yes, that is a slow dragon kill, but the reason behind that is because of my summoner skills being non jungle related, and my rune build being non jungle related (Dodge, Armor Penetration, MP regen) , and my mastery tree being 21/9/0 instead of 0/21/9 or 0/21/9

I jungle, and am still fully effective in the heat of any combat, at any level of the game

I imagine if i actually built myself for the jungle, i would only become a fiercer competitor in the wilds ~_^

But yeah, I'm kind of curious to see a malphite jungler, i've only seen 1 person attempt it and they failed miseably o_o;

You definately seem to have hit it on the right track though, almost intrigued enough to say throw me on friends and lets play sometime :3 (Also i've barely ever seen a good malaphite, and i'd love to see what a good one can do :-D )


My runes / Masteries are made for tanking not jungling which is why I need the summoner skills to be effective. The reason it works is because I jungle by tanking and not by dps output.

Anyways if you fancy a game right now I am more than happy to show you.

09-16-2009 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmecssRaege (Hozzászólás 123398)
Eh

I'm sorry but i really highly disagree with 2 things:

Warwick the king of the jungle? No, not at all.
Malphite the king of the jungle? No, i wouldn't say that either...

Then who is it....

Amumu.


The way i jungle on amumu, i dont waste any summoner skill on ****
(i run flash and teleport)

Killing golem/lizard elder at lvl 4
Dragon at lvl 6 (so far my record was dragon dieing at 9:03, done today..my average dragon kill time is 12 minutes though)

Not being able to kill a buff creep until level 4 makes Amumu not such a great jungler.

plasmatorture 09-16-2009 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeyk (Hozzászólás 123645)
Not being able to kill a buff creep until level 4 makes Amumu not such a great jungler.

He can do it at level 2 with summoner skills, possibly even level 1 but I haven't tried.


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