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So some guy just said that 4 reports in one game = automatic 14 day ban Lyte
5 Days Ago 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Ep1cLeprechaun View Post
Lyte, I made a new smurf account and am still leveling it, and the other day I received and in-game notice saying that I had been reported for negative attitude and warning me to basically straighten up. I don't think I did anything worthy of a report, but I'm not here to dispute that - I want to know if RIOT individually assesses these as well or if it is an automated system when too many reports were filed.
The more severe the penalty, the more aggressive our checks and balances. Quick notifications or warnings may have higher false positive rates, but we try to keep it fair.

But for penalties like bans and chat restrictions, we make sure there are multiple checks so that false positive rates are below 1%.


So some guy just said that 4 reports in one game = automatic 14 day ban Lyte
5 Days Ago 11:44 AM
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Players that think the system is automated or based solely on reports are just trying to drum up fear. Every report in the game is assessed for validity, and false reports tend to have 0 impact in player behavior systems. We have an entire system that just reviews every report and determines whether it's an accurate or false report--quite a few players know this, but still want to try to undermine the systems by claiming otherwise.


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[Pics] Riot Employee Verbally Abused Me In Game Lyte
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We hold Rioters to higher standards to players, so we'll take a look at this case.


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lyte not showing my chat logs just proves im not toxic Lyte
5 Days Ago 10:10 AM
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you should really stop provoking these trolls to make more threads

the negativity that comes in these threads are absurd and by responding to them you are only making it worse

yes, they asked for the chat logs but its a obvious bait to get you out because you are so tempted to show that your system is correct
We've learned a lot over the years. A long time ago, we used to be fully transparent and have discussions with players about their bans; but, there were a lot of concerns that Rioters were being bullies. We changed our policies and stopped discussing bans on the forums for the most part, but then players felt that the systems couldn't be trusted because so many players were complaining about unfair bans (which usually were fair and deserved).

So, we're trying a compromise--we'll post and discuss bans if players complain it's unfair or demand to see evidence. Otherwise, we're not going to post data publicly if the player is genuinely seeking advice to improve their behaviors. In the future, most systems will have "Reform Cards" that will send a report card with chat log evidence to players who are banned, so the current compromise doesn't have to be permanent.


lyte not showing my chat logs just proves im not toxic Lyte
5 Days Ago 10:04 AM
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1st and 2nd games was a 5 man premade and i called my friend a ****** and im 100% sure he wasnt offended.
whats wrong with calling a game cancer? i didnt offend anyone and that cait fed.
This was from 1 game, not from multiple. We generally don't review premade 5 games because what friends say between friends is up to them. We care about the experiences you force upon others who aren't friends.


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5 Days Ago 09:57 AM
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Angler Jax,

You were banned for repeatedly verbally abusing players in your matches. Even from games as recent as 7/20, 7/21, 7/22, 7/23 and 7/24, there are over 20 examples of games where you just went off on players. It doesn't matter whether players were playing poorly or were toxic too--retaliation is never OK, especially when you start using terms like f*ggot. In these cases, both of you end up being banned because all you are doing is creating an extremely negative experience for the 8 other players in the game. In the future, just mute the player and move on.

I'd also own up to your own behaviors. This isn't a 2 in 200 game occurrence for you, and in fact is very common across most of your games. For example, your most recent games had chat logs like the following:

Angler Jax [All] (0:42): REMUMBAH?
Angler Jax [All] (0:47): MOFUGAH?
Angler Jax [All] (0:53): REMEMBUH??
Angler Jax (1:12): wait untill i die
Angler Jax (1:18): them ill notify them about their cancerous team
Angler Jax (1:26): at first i was like
Angler Jax (1:29): "yay all ad team"
Angler Jax (1:33): then i saw him
Angler Jax (1:36): the bane of my existence
Angler Jax (1:39): ogod
Angler Jax (1:44): thank god i didnt go mid
Angler Jax [All] (1:49): in hell
Angler Jax [All] (1:51): fact
Angler Jax (4:32): wtf
Angler Jax (4:35): you f*ggot
Angler Jax (4:38): this **** sucks
Angler Jax (4:39): i hate u
Angler Jax (4:40): you suck
Angler Jax (4:41): **** you
Angler Jax (4:42): f*ggot
Angler Jax (4:56): oh
Angler Jax (4:58): wtf
Angler Jax (4:59): why no AA
Angler Jax (5:01): o god you are bronze
Angler Jax [All] (7:11): i ****ing hate u
Angler Jax [All] (7:36): youre not funny
Angler Jax [All] (7:43): i did miss like 100 Q's
Angler Jax [All] (7:48): but youre a f*ggot for playing riven
Angler Jax [All] (23:06): shes a feedlord
Angler Jax (25:45): this game is cacner as fk
Angler Jax (26:32): report cait


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5 Days Ago 09:19 AM
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People are receiving 14-day bans with no support review Lyte
5 Days Ago 08:05 AM
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Hi!

A) It's automatic. My Support ticket has been in for 2 days.
B) It's automatic. Or banning me would have taken longer than looking at my Support ticket.
It's not automatic. Almost no player behavior punishment systems are truly automatic--there's always checks and balances.

You were banned for a slew of verbal abuse in recent games, including:

Slave35 (18:12): WHAT
Slave35 (18:15): ARE YOU DOING
Slave35 (18:26): this is FKED
Slave35 (18:39): SO BAD
Slave35 (18:49): UNPLAYABLE GAME THANKS
Slave35 (36:51): STOP GOING TOP AND GROU PSION
Slave35 (37:07): I LITERALLY HAD TO BURN MY TELEPORT JUST TO GET MY RIGHTFUL CS FROM U UR REPORTED
(39:29): K REPORTING U TOO
Slave35 (39:39): SO FKING BAD
Slave35 (39:42): UR SO BAD
Slave35 (39:44): SPO BAD
Slave35 (39:45): SO BAD\
Slave35 (39:48): STOP DYING
Slave35 (39:50): STOP FEEDING
Summoner1 (39:52): Ryze stop being rude
Slave35 (39:57): MUTED
Slave35 (41:08): STOP THROWING AND GROUP WTF!!!!
Slave35 (41:16): UNBELIEVABLE!!!
Slave35 (42:38): WE COULD AHVE WON THERE BUT WW ON DRAGON
Slave35 (42:41): THANKS WW
Slave35 (43:08): and why did he have ot initiate in a 3v5
Slave35 (43:14): SO BAD
Slave35 (44:43): GJ GUYS
Slave35 (44:45): NOT
Slave35 (44:52): THREE V FIVE
Slave35 (44:54): TO WIN
Slave35 (45:00): THATS WHAT I HAVE TO DO TO WIN?!?!/
Slave35 (45:06): TH"|ANKS GUY"S\
Slave35 (45:12): UR REALLY SPECIAL I ALL KNOW THAt
Slave35 (50:07): WHY LEAVE ME
Slave35 (50:16): SO FKING INCREDIBLY BAD
Slave35 (50:19): U DON'T DESERVE TO BE CARRIEED

Summoner1 (7:15): chill out dude
Slave35 (7:23): ur muted and reporetd
Slave35 (8:30): he still talking **** even tho I crushed my lane?
Slave35 (20:01): when I have to literally CARRY THE GAME in order to win all night, this game is officallly no more fun;.
(21:52): ORI WTF
Slave35 (22:15): ORI WTF
Slave35 (22:24): REPORTED
Slave35 (22:26): TROWIONG
Slave35 (22:30): ur goddamn THROWIONG
Slave35 (22:35): GROUP OR LOSE
Slave35 (22:46): FKING NOOB\
Slave35 (23:28): NICE\
Slave35 (23:55): gj team
Slave35 (26:39): GO ION
Slave35 (26:41): GO IN\
Slave35 (26:45): LAST CHACNE
Slave35 (26:47): gj
Slave35 (27:11): done I'm done
Slave35 (28:08): fking don't deserve to be on a team wiht me seriouesly
Slave35 (28:34): do you know how fking unfun teams like you make this game??
Slave35 (37:29): WTF ORI
Slave35 (37:35): BE WITH THE GD TEAM
Slave35 (37:36): WTF
Slave35 (37:37): WTF
Slave35 (37:56): EASY WIN BUT NOBODY WANTS TOI
Slave35 (38:04): NOT ONE OF YOU
Slave35 (38:38): WTF ARE YOU DOI"NG FOREVER BROZNE???


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Pow-Pow (Jinx's minigun) works as follows:
-Attacking anything (INCLUDING TOWERS) with Pow-Pow adds stacks of attack speed, stacking up to 3 times.
-The first stack gives 50% of the total attack speed bonus. Stacks 2 and 3 each give 25% of the total bonus.
-Stacks last 2.5 seconds and fall off one at a time. This means that it takes 7.5 seconds for a fully stacked minigun to lose all of its stacks.
-Stacks are not removed when swapping to Mr. Fishbones (the rocket launcher). They will continue to decay like normal.
-The first attack after swapping to Dr. Fishbones, Ph.D. (the rocket launcher) will benefit from the bonus attack speed. All subsequent attacks will not.
-Attacking with Fishbones, Esq. (the rocket launcher) does not add stacks.


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I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Phreak
6 Days Ago 10:44 PM
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This is pretty much how i feel about this game now. I am in constant fear of being reported for ridiculous stuff like 'intentional feeding' and 'verbal abuse' now because of how bad people are abusing the report system. Everyone has a bad game now and then. But to be punished severely with a 2 week ban for it? jesus christ. This game is seriously becoming not fun to play anymore. I wanna que up and just mess around and have fun, not be badgered to play like my life depends on it and have every death turn my teamates into cannibals trying to devour my soul

Thats why URF was a dream come true. I could finally just mess around and pvp for fun and dying and playing like a pro didnt matter. Then they took it away from us along with the tribunal and things just spiraled completely out of control. Even in ARAM people are playing like their lives depend on it and file false reports against teamates to get them back for playing bad
One thing I really gotta tell you is to not worry about frivolous reports. There's a few things to keep in mind:

1. People who abuse reports, their reports become meaningless. So anyone who's abusing the report system is basically not abusing the report system. So you truly don't have to worry about abusers putting you in the tribunal, or up for restrictions. If this is your primary concern, do whatever you can to push that out of your mind. I've looked up my report history and had a bunch of bogus reports for things like "Didn't build a Trinity Force" and "Is impersonating a Rioter" and I have never ended up in the Tribunal, with Chat Restrictions, etc. And I know I lose my temper sometimes, so I have real reports in there, too.

2. If you're only playing League to kick back and have fun, why are you playing a ton of Ranked Games, then?

But again, all I can do is just keep restating point #1. Fake reports aren't going to get you.


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I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Phreak
6 Days Ago 10:01 PM
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Hey Phreak, how's it going?

I've been playing League for about a year now (technically played a little back around early 2011, but I left for a while since I was mostly into playing RuneScape). When I first started playing League I really enjoyed playing. Even when I lost games, I pretty much still had fun and was always eager to try playing champs until I got better. I especially played Ashe a lot pre-level 30. At the time though I didn't quite understand the meta (eg. adc/supp bottom lane, etc.) and I assumed I was good at playing ranged champions. As time went by, I realized I was actually awful at playing adc and pretty much moved on to being mostly a support/jungler since csing is generally not so good with me. I didn't start finishing my placements for my first games of ranked until around March 2014 and got placed in Silver 2. I was actually feeling good because I didn't end up in Bronze.

Well from there I stuck to doing jungling/supporting, but lately (maybe as of 5 months ago) I started not being happy with playing League. I go from being excited about what will happen every game to being worried about losing or teammates getting mad at me if I do awful. I see to be long alot of games recently. A recent example of this would be the top lane Cho'Gath game I tried to play. At the end of that game I had all of my teammates (except the Lucian) basically rage at me at the end game chat.

Now I know things like this aren't supposed to bother me, but it just gives me a sense of fear of playing PVP games when things like that happen.
At this point I feel like playing League is more of a chore than having fun. I don't know it's because I think about trying to win too much or the fear of teammates getting angry with me if I perform poorly, but there's just something that makes me feel miserable when playing League now. I've even reached the point where I play LOTS of Co-Op vs AI games just to avoid problems as much as possible (I believe I have around 2100+ bot games played). I try reading about champs on sites like Mobafire or Lolking and watch YouTube videos on mechanics, but noting has really improved for me significantly since I got into League about a year ago. I'm even starting to believe I'm not actually a Silver 2 and I'm probably somewhere much lower than that. Because of my mentality now I literally am scared of playing ranked games and I'm slowly losing LP due to inactivity there.

I'm overall not a negative person but as of recently I noticed I'm a bit more moody. Whenever I'm doing bad in a game, I have the "I wanna surrender at 20" mentality, which is something I never did in my earlier stages of playing League. I would even respond to people who had bad things to say to me with things like "stfu" or "f you", another thing I never really did earlier. I generally agree with your advice with taking a break, but I seem to be addicted to playing League and trying to get better at it to reach Gold. I feel like if I stopped playing for a little while, I'd only get worse than I already am in terms of performance. I'm basically stuck in a cycle of playing almost everyday, but not having fun/improving now, and I have no idea what to do at this point. :/
I'll admit I've not personally encountered that type of ladder anxiety before, the one brought on by potential teammate raging.

My advice to you would be to find some friends to play with and go for Ranked 5s. It seems to me you want a badge to show how hard you've worked, but it's hard to deal with the attitudes of random teammates sometimes. Play Normals with the intent being "Find guys who are chill who want to play Ranked 5s." Try to eliminate the part that's stressing you out while still getting to play the hardcore Ranked experience.

In terms of self-improvement, I find the best examples are the ones literally used by pros, rather than the guides written by strangers on the Internet: http://na.lolesports.com/eu-lcs/2014...-vs-alliance-0 for example.


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I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Phreak
6 Days Ago 08:41 PM
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So funny, Lyte. Trying to clear people of their "toxicity" on the INTERNET, as if you had no idea that in REAL LIFE people don't get to express their emotions because everyone is quick to judge and hypocritical, so they express all that pain (notice how I said pain, not toxicity) through the mediums of which they WANT TO ENJOY, but can't because your game and your community aren't very savvy at preserving humanity's sanity when a particular group of people play to escape from their pain, but eventually have to face it during your terribly performing game.
Hey man, I don't pretend to know you as a person, but there is a small piece of advice I want to share:

If you are playing games to escape from some real-world pain, that's fine. A lot of people use games for an escape. I've done it plenty of times. So I feel you there.

However, try to be conscious of what kinds of games you're playing. If you're in a state where any time a teammate gives up first blood, you fly off the handle... that's just not good news for anyone. If you're in that kind of place, you should stay away from team-based multiplayer games until you calm down a bit. Why not play a shooter where you don't have to talk with your teammates or rely on them for your individual success? What about an MMO? Go kill some skeletons to relieve stress. The truth is, League of Legends is really heavily-based on teamwork and cooperation among strangers (or friends). If you're agitated, it might just not be the right game to play at that time.


I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Lyte
6 Days Ago 08:01 PM
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Lyte,

We've often seen the statistic in game that 74% of players warned by the Tribunal just once never end up there again. Was this not true?

If that was true, what is the point of going directly to long bans, especially for chat violations, against players who have never been warned or punished before? Should we expect long bans issued without any warning and without explanation to be regular aspect of how Riot manages the game from now?
This is a great question.

For the majority of players (74%), the first warning in the Tribunal was enough for them to improve their behaviors. In fact, with warnings + chat restrictions, that number goes up to 75-77% in many servers.

More % of players improve their behaviors after the next tier ban, but at the end of the day, we see about 1-3% of players refuse to reform regardless of the consequences. Systems like the one here try to identify those players, and immediately escalate their bans to the highest tiers. We've seen that players who tend to be consistently severe in their behaviors tend to never reform, which is why we built a machine learning approach to try to identify these patterns.

In general, we'll always focus on reform. It works for the vast majority of players that ever see a punishment system; however, by giving the worst 1-3% so many chances, we're actually letting them ruin a lot more games and players' experiences and that's something we want to try to reduce.


I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:55 PM
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Lyte,
First of all, I was referring to my blue buff.
Second, why don't you post the chat log of what others bm'd me for my buffs
Third, It is pretty biased and one sided when you only post MY chat logs of course its going to make things turn out in your favor.

900 ranked games and never been banned and you come across with a 14 day ban over a stupid reason to "test out your system" like we are some sort of lab rats.
Retaliating in a toxic way is unacceptable in League. In fact, in many cases, both players end up being punished. Just because "someone started it" doesn't give you an excuse to ruin up to 8 other players' experiences.

When the features are complete, the Reform Cards will show the entire chat log and replace Summoner Names with Champion Names. For now, we only post the offending players' chat log to maintain the other players' privacy.


I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:50 PM
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It's definitely busted. It's the reason they took it down.
Over a year ago Lyte admitted the tribunal was already facing notable diminishing returns
Actually, to clarify a few things: Tribunal wasn't broken. We had to take it down for some pretty immense upgrades, such as retooling the algorithms entirely to include machine learning, to add positive cases for review, and to make the system globally viable in every language around the world--that's a lot of work.

What we meant by diminishing returns was, the system was getting so accurate that continuing to work on accuracy was hitting diminishing returns. Instead, by using machine learning, we can also focus on improving how the Tribunal handles the 'severity' of cases and improving the speed of the system.

We'll be bringing the system back globally, which is a huge goal for us because for awhile only servers like NA/EU benefited from the system.


I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:32 PM
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why'd you highlight the part where he wasn't giving out buffs?
is it jungle's obligation to give buffs to feeders now? is this a new rule?
I saw the OP use the phrase in a few games, but it wasn't related to jungling. I understood it as "I'm not giving you any cr*p" when he clearly was. I might be wrong!


I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:26 PM
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Well. Maybe the lying balantly in the forum about not using the chat at all makes him deserve the permban?
Hm, maybe a new policy is if players want to complain about their ban but it's justified, it automatically gets escalated 1 tier...


I'd like chat logs for my 2 week ban when I don't even use chat. Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:18 PM
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Unless you guys are pulling out data from about 3-4 weeks ago and later, I find it quite impossible for myself to receive a 2 week ban for displaying "extreme toxicity" when I do not even use the in-game chat features. Sure I spam pings sometimes, and sure sometimes I get bad games where I do horribly and feed early game due to bad plays.

But, do you Rioters aka Lyte and Wookie, know that you get reported for anything and everything nowadays? For ex. I could be 2/8, we would lose the game, and then I would get reported by my whole team "OMG NOOB FEEDER GG report please". My team would also encourage the other team to report me because I was playing badly. This is the mindset of LoL players today, and I find it kind of disturbing that professional adults who work at Riot such as Lyte, thought it would be a great idea to post on his twitter that they are conducting a "test" or "experiment" sending out huge unfair ban waves to a multitude of players without prior warning? I believe I speak for a majority of the LoL player population, WE DO NOT CARE FOR YOUR POINTLESS TWITTER NOR CARE ABOUT YOUR TWITTER UPDATES. If you are going to be making an impacted update such as sending waves of 14 day bans, I believe it shouldn't be posted on Lyte's twitter feed but rather on the front page so that people who launch the LoL client will ACTUALLY see this.

A good example of this would be when Riot upgraded the automated tribunal system to quickly hand out chat restrictions. Guess what? It was posted on the front page so that everyone knew about it and it was fair game. However, you LYTE posted this update on your social platform where half of us don't even care about the fact that you possess a twitter account. A more MATURE and APPROPRIATE action would be to post on the front page of the NA LoL website "Warning we are conducting a new system that will start handing out 14 day bans displaying extreme toxicity after (insert date)" and then GIVE US A CHANCE TO REFORM FOR OUR PAST ACTIONS. If people start displaying toxic behavior after the date, then 14 day bans would be fair and there would be less complaining threads on the forums.

I don't understand how Riot allows such unprofessional employees such as Lyte abuse his privileges like he is on some sort of a power trip. The customer always comes first, learn to give fair warnings and MAKE SURE THEY ARE PUBLICLY VISIBLE. Riot really needs to use their resources wisely and hire more mature and competent adults to monitor their game rather than Lyte.
Hey Wargod1212,

First, I apologize for posting information on social media and not doing a full announcement. We were just doing some tests of a new system and were planning a full announcement when the system went live. Clearly players wanted more visibility on that information and that's my mistake, and we'll learn. When the features are finished testing and there's a full system, we'll still do a full announcement. But in the future, we'll try to get the messaging up-front.

However, I'd like you to be more honest with your posts. It's very clear that you use chat, and I've pulled games from as recent as last week. Secondly, I don't think posting on the front-page or in-game excuses you from the behaviors you've already done. You created a ton of negative experiences for other players, and we never said that every player gets a clean slate when the tests began. Even if we did a warning on the front-page or in-game, we'd still give you a harsh penalty. In fact, the team was very close to giving you a permanent ban for your recent behaviors in the past week alone. Nearly every single game looks like the chat logs below:

I have a feeling you know what you do in games, so please try to make an effort to own up and be accountable for your own actions. Blaming others isn't going to get you anywhere here.

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wargod1212 (2:16): and mid is not here
wargod1212 (2:19): this game is over
wargod1212 (2:38): WHY DO I ALWAYS GET THESE ****ING TEAMS
wargod1212 (3:15): ****ing stupid kass
wargod1212 (3:28): you just lost la ne
wargod1212 (3:56): and top is going to feed
wargod1212 (4:02): top and mid already lost
wargod1212 (4:25): my red got stolen
wargod1212 (6:58): yeah im done
wargod1212 (7:02): this ****ing team sucks
wargod1212 [All] (9:20): *****
wargod1212 (12:06): garen youre a piece of ****
wargod1212 (13:07): DUDE DONT ****ING FEED NOW
wargod1212 (14:14): when youre that gfar behind you dont sit under turret
wargod1212 (14:16): you run away
wargod1212 (14:34): im not giving you ****
wargod1212 (15:25): yeah im done
wargod1212 (15:27): this ****ing team
wargod1212 [All] (18:35): you guys dont deserve this ****ing win
wargod1212 [All] (18:39): pathetic team
wargod1212 (20:26): DIONT
wargod1212 (20:28): RECALL
wargod1212 (20:29): THERE
wargod1212 (20:31): IDIOTS
wargod1212 (32:12): ****ing idiot

wargod1212 [All] (7:25): you suck dick
wargod1212 [All] (9:08): report please
Summoner1 (9:13): you realize that **** talking people does no good
wargod1212 (11:11): why did you ****ing take that kill from me
wargod1212 [All] (12:29): like i said
wargod1212 [All] (12:32): suck dick
wargod1212 (16:00): gp getting anally raped by nasus
wargod1212 (16:52): wow
wargod1212 (16:57): you guys are ****ing retarded
wargod1212 [All] (17:13): rtarded ****ing team
wargod1212 (17:41): dont udnerstand how you can be that retarded
wargod1212 [All] (25:47): gg retarded team

wargod1212 [All] (4:18): *****
wargod1212 (5:13): wow this tryndamere is such a ****ing *****
wargod1212 [All] (6:11): tryn why do you play such a ***** ass champ
wargod1212 [All] (6:35): no because you like dick in your mouth *****
wargod1212 (7:13): what the hell kayle
wargod1212 (7:18): what the **** you ****ing noob
wargod1212 (12:51): gg so hard
wargod1212 (12:55): ww so ****ing useless
wargod1212 (18:22): just surrender
wargod1212 (18:25): i want to play another game
wargod1212 (18:29): without noob ass jungler
wargod1212 (18:31): and noob ass mid

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I'm gonna write a book of responses to Ghostcrawler. Ghostcrawler
6 Days Ago 05:20 PM
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What I don't understand is why you guys aren't mentioning ANYTHING about the fact that the reason melee need to be overloaded is because you guys have taken out ANY drawbacks of being ranged in this game. They have no turnspeeds, no cast times, and there's no reduced MS on backpeddling in this game. They can freely kite all day without any issues.
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To clarify, I was saying ranged don't have those weaknesses right now today. They really don't have any weaknesses inherent to being a mage or ADC. It would be nice if there was some inherent property of ranged champions in the same way bruisers have the generic property of "you can't kill things at range" (with a few exceptions to keep things spicy of course).


Why is everyone raging at Ghostcrawler? Ghostcrawler
6 Days Ago 05:03 PM
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So here's my question: Why hasn't there been more talks (publicly) about implementing a similar (hidden passive) for bruisers and fighters that's specificly advantegoues for fighting carries? Something like, "Any champions with a 'Bruiser' or 'Fighter' tag does X% bonus damage against any champion with a 'marksmen' tag.)
Something like that might work. The basic stats may be there that if ADCs had low armor and melee had high armor that you'd get the same effect. Your idea might not cause melee vs. melee fights to be slow. Does it feel too game-y, like a combat system that couldn't solve inherent problems and needed a band-aid slapped on?

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Am I just confused at what your job is? I am under the impression that you are the guy in charge of the balance team even if you delegate the patch to patch balance. Given that most of what people want is for you to go to the patch to patch subdivision of the balance team, tell them "Hey guys you said you would keep an eye on fighters so they don't suck. Yet they currently do suck. Fix it."
I have no problem if you hold me accountable for the balance of the game. I'm totally fine if you blame me for anything, and honestly most Rioters would feel the same way. When I say I'm not the guy working on something, what I'm saying is that if you have a problem, concern or question with a specific champion (or feature or whatever), you should address that to the Rioter working on that champion. He or she will know all the numbers backwards and forwards, has context on various ideas that have been tried, will have well established goals for what they are trying to bring about, and has just thought about it a lot more than I have. He or she is more qualified to have that discussion, and is able to do so. That is one of the things I love about Riot. They won't always answer. Maybe they're too busy. Maybe they had a bad experience on the forums lately. But they will see the feedback, I promise.


I'm gonna write a book of responses to Ghostcrawler. Ghostcrawler
6 Days Ago 04:48 PM
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I honestly think your multiple posts have helped most sane individuals understand exactly the point youre trying to make
Awesome. It was all worth it then. To clarify, I'm not pitching a particular solution but framing the problem so that we can get relevant feedback from you guys (and it doesn't all have to be today in this one thread of course).

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Ghostcrawler, whats your opinion about meele hypercarrys
The notion of melee hypercarries is cool. We agree that they currently don't give up enough to fill that role (which in turn probably keeps them from being as great as they could be late game). If say Yi needed more babysitting early (because he was building to carry and suffered in early or mid game survivability) then he'd be justified in exploding late like a marks hypercarry. Overall, it's a good idea that is not quite there.

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I think that, if you DO want all champions to be diverse, then at the end of the day some specific matchups between champions will always boil down to being slap fights.
That may be the case, but we think we can do better (and you deserve better). There are too many melee, most designed around the 2011 and 2012 era, that don't have enough abilities that really make you play them differently or react to them differently as the other team. Many of you have brought up specific cases of champions whose mechanics you do love, and that feedback is useful. Just be sure to distinguish between loving the mechanics or loving the champion despite the mechanics.

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I don't have the bandwidth to post.
I don't have the bandwidth to address every point that gets made or give my analysis of the health of every champion currently in the game. I've made an extra effort to try to frame the melee conversation because there seemed to be some confusion about what I was saying. I do love talking to players, but I don't always have as much time as they deserve.

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I think what we're trying to get at is that while it may not be fun to "watch", most melee fights are fun to play.
Fun is super subjective, so it's not always easy to talk about. I can take all the wind out of your sails by saying "Well, I find it fun," and you can do the same. Suffice to say in this case we have heard enough feedback from players saying that melee vs. melee duels could be more exciting to play that we decided to take a look at it. This is something we've been talking about for some time -- I hope it's not new information.

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First off, you don't want a game where the interaction between melee and ranged isn't REAL. You don't want a game where the only REAL interaction is to burst the marksmen instantly or be killed one at a time. You don't want all your hopes in having a "fair fight" where the marksmen's weakness is an actual weakness revolves around killing him before he can contribute to the fight.
Right. This is a form of counterplay, but not a very deep one. If I reach you, you die. If I fail to reach you, I die. Ideally, there would be more counterplay than that, where I have some solutions if you kite me and you have some solutions if I manage to close with you. I described this relationship as binary in another post, but I don't think I described it well, because it caused some confusion (amplified by a bunch of accidental or willful misquotes). I didn't respond to many of the other points you made, but I thought they were good ones.

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gc adc bias is disgusting
No bias, bro. We're just discussing how melee should be designed.

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Has there ever been any consideration that perhaps there is nothing wrong inherently with ranged or melee champs but merely the item choices that make them the way they are
Totally. TBH, we think itemization is a big part of it.

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A rioter posted a while back that Bruisers are a completely flawed and regrettable design, and I couldnt agree more. I think it was Ghostcrawler tbh, but that isn't what matters.
That doesn't sound like me, and I don't think they are regrettable. I think they suffer from a little bit of an identity crisis. Players (and devs!) should be able to state fairly clearly (with room for exceptions to keep it interesting): What is a bruiser good at or bad at? How does a bruiser differ from a tank? Is a melee carry different from a fighter? We focused a lot on creating interesting champions, but didn't put enough design into what it meant to belong to a particular role.

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Be it itemization changes/champion changes (it is likely going to be a combination of both) - it is possible to make the MvR interaction viable without making it OP - given that all factors are considered!
Yes. And I appreciate the rest of your analysis. That is the kind of thing we need and plan to undertake, with sufficient feedback from players of course.
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Are you saying this as something you want to do as a designer or the same way that I say "It would be nice if I had a billion dollars"?
No, we really want to do it. It might be too hard. It might be too disruptive. But we want to try. We don't think League is a fundamentally flawed game -- far from it. But we do think we need to do some amount of "systems housekeeping" to keep the game mechanics from breaking down like an overworked washing machine as we fill it with more and more varied champions and items. I appreciate the rest of your post too.


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Games Anyone?? Password inside RiotBamDragon
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14 day ban, never chat restricted? Lyte
6 Days Ago 03:03 PM
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Hey Lyte do you mind giving me the date that took place? Also thanks for the words of encouragement XD
Away from my desk right now but I believe it was a game from last week!


14 day ban, never chat restricted? Lyte
6 Days Ago 02:55 PM
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Ok what happened to riot preferring to reform players over banning them? You said yourself he was on his way to a chat restriction, and now your system has elevated that to a 14 day ban?

Im sorry, but if I had gotten that 2 years ago when I was still a toxic little **** I would have just made a new account. As it stands I still have my very first account and havent been banned in a long while. A successful reform if you will
Actually, we're still focused on reform first. But, that doesn't mean harsher penalties are off the table. For the majority of offenders, they get warnings first, chat restrictions first, and then escalate to a harsher penalty like a permanent ban--that's multiple chances to reform.

For some offenders, some offenses are so severe such as real life death threats that they could immediately be escalated to a permanent ban. For some offenders, we don't believe they have a chance at reform, so escalating their punishment is the best solution to avoid the offender creating negative experiences for thousands of players.


14 day ban, never chat restricted? Lyte
6 Days Ago 02:53 PM
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Here's a small sample of the OP's chat logs, since he agreed to show one.

Keep on trying to improve though Only Half Korean, I'm sure you can get your account into a neutral or positive status if you keep working at it.

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Only Half Korean (12:53): no youre not
Only Half Korean (13:31): excuse city
Only Half Korean (20:49): i wish our other lanes would push
Only Half Korean (20:52): since they're huggin bot so bad
Only Half Korean (20:53): but no
Only Half Korean (22:46): buy a ****ing pink ward
Only Half Korean (22:47): you *******
Only Half Korean (25:30): ]stfuy
Only Half Korean (25:33): stfu lol
Only Half Korean (26:48): ****ing idiot lebaLnc can't r heher w
Only Half Korean (26:59): good job now catching her you ****ty piece of ****
Only Half Korean (27:12): but youre ****
Only Half Korean (27:13): repot you
Only Half Korean (27:37): but you are
Only Half Korean (27:41): you b een ruinning your mouth all game
Only Half Korean (27:45): and you****ing suck lol
Only Half Korean (30:02): mor eimportant to do jungle than ****ing mid
Only Half Korean (30:03): lol
Only Half Korean (30:08): thats why you idiots are bronze
Only Half Korean (30:09): or worse
Only Half Korean (30:21): then show it lol
Only Half Korean (30:22): lol
Only Half Korean (30:25): carried much?
Only Half Korean [All] (30:55): "are team sucks"
Only Half Korean [All] (31:01): <3 grammar
Only Half Korean (35:11): come mid you ******
Only Half Korean (35:20): ****ing idiot
Only Half Korean (35:24): stay top like a ******
Only Half Korean (35:25): gj
Only Half Korean (35:28): throw game
Only Half Korean (35:29): ****ing moron
Only Half Korean (35:33): yeah
Only Half Korean (35:35): defend 1v4
Only Half Korean (35:36): gj
Only Half Korean (35:38): dumbass
Only Half Korean (35:46): good thing you farmed top
Only Half Korean (35:54): i asked to group mid
Only Half Korean (35:55): he said no
Only Half Korean (35:57): ****ing idiot
Only Half Korean (39:10): yeah
Only Half Korean (39:13): as good as you
Only Half Korean (39:16): running like a *****
Only Half Korean (39:19): you're a piece of ****
Only Half Korean (39:35): gold 2 right?
Only Half Korean (39:37): how about unranked
Only Half Korean (39:40): ****ty piece of **** lol
Only Half Korean (39:56): u trash lol
Only Half Korean (40:00): > gold 2 then
Only Half Korean (40:04): since you suck
Only Half Korean (40:06): and cant' carry

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14 day ban, never chat restricted? Lyte
6 Days Ago 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BoyManDog33 View Post
The source of the ban is not the issue, it's the policy of the 14 day ban. Permanent bans may be a different issue if it is a repeated offense that had been monitored over time from when the "permaban" was instated. The issue at hand, again, is the 4 day old policy of the "14 day ban". It is, and should be, considered separate from a permanent ban, as it is a new policy. Any evidence of toxicity gathered prior to this policy should be null due to Ex Post Facto law.
14 day bans were also handed out before for the exact same offenses.


LoL video series feedback Riot Eno
6 Days Ago 12:53 PM
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There is not a "video feedback" forum so I will just post this here for now.

summoners showcase was fun , i watched a lot of them early on but kinda stopped unless i'm just waiting for a q or on my phone bored etc. Good series while it ran <3 nika and <3 the art.

But it didn't give any insight into the game whatsoever. The patch series you pioled however, is also fun but this time I'm learning alot about the mission and goals of riot and there responses to players ( snoop in that first one ).

I was so happy to see it was longer then 5 min or so. For informative information like this I would not mind 20min but i'm sure there is not always that much to even say.

Overall I would love to see more riot produced spotlight's ( even on items ). Clearly everyone LOVES the cg movies you guys make and we want more but we are all aware of the difficulty of creating that level of excellence so take your time on those ... just not to long :P
Thanks Opi!

We want more too!!


Champion Sound Updates?? Riot Eno
6 Days Ago 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by NeoJusteBelmont View Post
With all the new champions getting extra quotes here and there, I just find it that Riot is leaving some old champions in the dust, audio-wise. I don't mean that one needs a visual update/rework a la Karthus to do so, just add up voices or change things, I remember Garen suddenly had his selection quote changed from "To the fields of justice!" to "My heart and soul, always for Demacia."

I dunno, but is it a hard work to update most champions' quote bank to be similar to, say, at the very least the current Ashe (but it'll be better if it's like Braum atm)? It'll be great for 'dynamic storytelling', something like Gangplank-Miss Fortune having taunts to each other, or maybe Pantheon having a special joke when facing Leona. And then there's some whose voice banks are just severely limited and needs a lot of updates, yet not exactly needing visual/gameplay update. The aforementioned Gangplank, Singed, Fiddlesticks, Tryndamere (except if he goes Demonblade) are such examples.

Well, Riot? At the very least, you can tell me if even such updates take A LOT of work...
Hey there!

Great question. We agree that there a ton of older Champs that need love in the voice-over department. The plan is to continue on with increasing the amount of Champion voice-over when a Champ gets a full relaunch.

There are several reasons for holding off until a proper relaunch, some of them aesthetic/quality-focused, while some of them are technical.

Trust us, we want to see ALL of the oldies-but-goodies getting a lot more to say, and it will come with time; the Relaunch team isn't going away anytime soon.

Have a great weekend! =)