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2 Week ban Question @RiotLyte Lyte
6 Days Ago 08:03 PM
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If you mute chat, and people false report you for harassment or verbal abuse, you'll be fine and not be permanently banned.

There's an entire system called the Report System that validates reports, and filters the false ones out.


Received 2 week ban. Just looking for some clarification. Lyte
6 Days Ago 08:00 PM
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Looks like it was due to excessive verbal attacks, racial slurs and more on 8/1, 8/8 and 8/10.


@Lyte Recieved 14 Day Ban for Barely Being Toxic? Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:57 PM
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Hey,

It looks like you were banned for excessive verbal attacks, such as:

[10:05] WildWang: oh wtf
[11:02] WildWang: such a dumbass
[13:18] WildWang: with lucian thresh
[13:20] WildWang: like wtf
[13:25] WildWang: doesn't make any ****ing sense
[14:16] WildWang: when thresh
[14:17] WildWang: is useless
[14:55] WildWang: cuz he's downi
[15:20] WildWang: pretty sure riot doesn't care what a downie like you says
[15:25] WildWang: so go report me
[16:03] WildWang: bcuz thresh is downie
[16:31] WildWang: if its just a ****ing game then don't play it
[16:52] WildWang: go play some kid game like club penguin
[17:02] WildWang: where you can act like some kid all you want
[17:09] WildWang: cuz they have same intelligence as you
[25:12] WildWang: gg,
[28:13] WildWang: gg.
[28:18] WildWang: can we ff
[36:11] WildWang: so bad
[36:26] WildWang: so bad thresh
[36:29] WildWang: no woder we lost
[36:33] WildWang: you suck so hard
[36:36] WildWang: how to lose bo tlane
[36:37] WildWang: for team
[36:39] WildWang: fgt
[36:45] WildWang: you should uninstall
[38:27] WildWang: gg noob team
[38:46] WildWang: ty for losing game trash thresh

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[14:03] WildWang: what the **** the bot lane role is
[14:05] WildWang: and you don't know ****
[14:08] WildWang: the support
[14:42] WildWang: support is so ****ing bad
[15:26] WildWang: love how d4s are cocky pieces of **** who think they're good
[27:36] WildWang: cause of ****tards like this bot lane
[27:45] WildWang: don't play the ****ing game
[27:55] WildWang: can we just ff
[28:04] WildWang [ALL]: gg report bot unskilled ty
[28:26] WildWang: i don't caer
[28:27] WildWang: you suck
[28:33] WildWang: learn to play the game
[28:35] WildWang: lol you suck
[28:41] WildWang: wtf
[28:44] WildWang: i got camped?
[28:45] WildWang: kha didn't gank my lane
[28:46] WildWang: once
[28:53] WildWang: i one solo
[28:54] WildWang: how about you
[28:56] WildWang: you lost solo
[28:57] WildWang: dip****


Banned for two weeks, Punishment System Lyte
6 Days Ago 07:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Norscout View Post
I'm actually with the OP on this one, I'm usually not.
OP has a lot of other examples, and was not being harassed that much by his teammates in the example.

But, the OP has been doing a lot better since his ban, and I just wanted to pull a recent example of what led to his ban and not copy/paste dozens of examples like I've done for others.


Banned for 14 days Lyte
6 Days Ago 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Vortex Sigma View Post
@Lyte. Can we do banning of people instead of just the offending account? This punk kid tells other players that he doesn't care because this is his smurf account.

I remember reading that Riot can tell what accounts belong to the same person. Can you guys just ban all their accounts so we the, League community, don't have to deal with them once and for all.

You ban this account, he has other accounts to fall back on. That's why they don't worry too much about the consequences.
If they behave the same way on their main account, it'll be banned.


Banned for two weeks, Punishment System Lyte
6 Days Ago 06:03 PM
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Your account is fine right now right?

Looks like you've been doing well since your ban, but the reason you were banned was because of excessive verbal abuse like this:

[1:24] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: wtf is wrong with U.
[1:30] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: k.
[8:06] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: good
[10:58] Ancient Dragon: wtf tf
[11:19] Ancient Dragon: sigh cant carry this team nvm
[11:22] Ancient Dragon: come to me?
[11:25] Ancient Dragon: we had the surprise
[11:27] Ancient Dragon: u ran aorund
[11:33] Ancient Dragon: and wasted 50% of my health
[11:49] Ancient Dragon: ofc, cause ur trash
[12:39] Ancient Dragon: lil sht tf misses another kill
[12:53] Ancient Dragon: lol ok stfu
[13:13] Ancient Dragon: bad cause u keep missing kills? trash?
[13:34] Ancient Dragon: trash
[13:50] Ancient Dragon: stating facts is being mad? lol trash
[14:14] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: u did wtf i dont remmeber
[14:33] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: oooo hi XD
[14:40] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: enjoy the win :P
[15:25] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: that slang, so real
[15:29] Ancient Dragon: trash
[15:49] Ancient Dragon: told u, ya
[16:07] Ancient Dragon: yep u r
[16:09] Ancient Dragon: trash
[16:40] Ancient Dragon: well other synonyms of trash.. but trash will be trash obv..
[17:17] Ancient Dragon: lol im mlf cause im miles better than u? no any kid with 2 hands can play better than u
[17:20] Ancient Dragon: no need to be mlg
[17:30] Ancient Dragon: mlg*
[17:37] Ancient Dragon: nice one man
[17:40] Ancient Dragon: trash
[18:04] Ancient Dragon: ok ur right i should stop talkn to trash, makes me look crazy
[18:32] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: report tf afk
[18:46] Ancient Dragon: nice trash
[18:58] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: he is beside nexus trashtalking all game
[19:10] Ancient Dragon: get it? trash-talking?
[19:15] Ancient Dragon: haha trash tf
[19:35] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: fk u i aint toxic D:
[20:00] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: this tf is calln me a retarded adopted.. unwanted child lol
[20:09] Ancient Dragon [ALL]: and u say im toxic T_T
[20:34] Ancient Dragon: pls trash tf too much

This is just one example, but in League retaliation isn't acceptable. All you are doing when you fight toxicity with toxicity is making it a worse experience for up to 8 other players in the game. Just mute the players and report them after the game--I guarantee you that the players that are toxic in your matches will end up punished.


Serious talk here. 2 week ban? + another 4 days? Lyte
6 Days Ago 05:59 PM
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Hey,

This is because you were banned on Aug 11th for chat logs on Aug 9th. However, you had a few games on Aug 10th that were extremely toxic, so your ban was extended.


Lyte, i need Chat logs. Lyte
6 Days Ago 05:56 PM
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Your case is interesting because the system didn't note any high severity cases often; however, you persistently (in nearly every game) have mid-level severity offenses. The repeated behaviors resulted in the system escalating you to a 14-day ban. Some examples of your chat logs are here:

[12:51] Lacey Casper: im not leaving
[12:56] Lacey Casper: im waiting till 20 and surrendering
[12:58] Lacey Casper: im done
[13:14] Lacey Casper: what did i jsut say kid
[13:24] Lacey Casper: im ntob eing toxic
[13:33] Lacey Casper: i jsut said the game is over and im surrendering at 20
[13:50] Lacey Casper: lmfao nobody is trying to be tough
[13:56] Lacey Casper: im just telling you how it is
[14:15] Lacey Casper: keep feedign like that draven
[14:19] Lacey Casper: im sure you'll get better
[20:23] Lacey Casper [ALL]: end pls
[20:27] Lacey Casper [ALL]: kids vote no on surrender
[23:07] Lacey Casper [ALL]: end pls
[23:09] Lacey Casper [ALL]: hurry up
[26:21] Lacey Casper: nah
[26:27] Lacey Casper: they are jsut too fed to fight
[26:44] Lacey Casper: look at the score and ask yourself should we have won that teamfight
[26:47] Lacey Casper: lmfao
[26:50] Lacey Casper: delusional
[27:12] Lacey Casper: yah there should eb a reason
[27:15] Lacey Casper: they are all fed
[27:20] Lacey Casper: pls dont try to justify it
[28:13] Lacey Casper [ALL]: report me for assisting the enemy team and negative attitdue they said
[28:15] Lacey Casper [ALL]: lmfao
[28:47] Lacey Casper [ALL]: report me for having a ngeative attitude when my team feeds for 28 straight minutes
[28:50] Lacey Casper [ALL]: and refuses to surrender
[28:53] Lacey Casper [ALL]: report me tho
[29:08] Lacey Casper: yup
[29:10] Lacey Casper: gj kid
[29:14] Lacey Casper: have fun false reporting
[29:17] Lacey Casper: nah
[29:23] Lacey Casper: you peopel were trash to begin with
[29:32] Lacey Casper: me talkign about what you're doing isnt negative
[29:35] Lacey Casper: if im telling the truth
[29:43] Lacey Casper: nah
[29:46] Lacey Casper: the truth isnt negative

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[19:36] Lacey Casper: fuking silvers
[19:46] Lacey Casper: stfu
[19:54] Lacey Casper: you retar dshe nearly died with jsut em alone
[19:57] Lacey Casper: why the **** didint you help
[20:06] Lacey Casper: instead you ping and watch
[20:09] Lacey Casper: jesus christ
[20:22] Lacey Casper: w/e kid
[26:21] Lacey Casper: im doen with you losers
[27:06] Lacey Casper: you kids werent there
[32:05] Lacey Casper: you kids are farming
[32:21] Lacey Casper: ffs
[37:26] Lacey Casper [ALL]: told this kid to play a tnak

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[12:16] Lacey Casper: lucian
[12:17] Lacey Casper: ffs
[19:22] Lacey Casper [ALL]: im done with thsi team/game
[19:23] Lacey Casper [ALL]: end pls
[21:43] Lacey Casper [ALL]: come fight kid
[21:55] Lacey Casper [ALL]: see how fast you get done up
[22:02] Lacey Casper [ALL]: ***** pls
[22:44] Lacey Casper [ALL]: dont hide behind your turret either
[22:48] Lacey Casper [ALL]: cuz you're a *****
[24:23] Lacey Casper [ALL]: jinx you're trash lmfao
[42:34] Lacey Casper: *****
[42:38] Lacey Casper [ALL]: gg
[42:42] Lacey Casper [ALL]: im sitting out
[43:13] Lacey Casper [ALL]: lmfao idc anymore
[43:17] Lacey Casper [ALL]: you tlak **** you lsoe the game
[43:22] Lacey Casper [ALL]: nah kid
[43:31] Lacey Casper [ALL]: lsoe pls
[43:34] Lacey Casper [ALL]: lose
[44:34] Lacey Casper [ALL]: ty

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[10:18] Lacey Casper [ALL]: now he has double buffs. you *****
[10:50] Lacey Casper [ALL]: youf ed my lane and when i pinge dyou to gtfo
[12:00] Lacey Casper: shut the fuvk up
[12:34] Lacey Casper: *****

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[12:22] Lacey Casper: im gonna go afk
[16:45] Lacey Casper: unless you're going to help then shut the **** up
[21:56] Lacey Casper: pro kid gets kited
[23:20] Lacey Casper: kid jsut runs in

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[13:27] Lacey Casper: **** boy
[13:43] Lacey Casper: lmfao
[14:24] Lacey Casper: gj kid
[14:28] Lacey Casper: go afk pls
[14:52] Lacey Casper: go afk pls
[15:47] Lacey Casper: kid is a ******
[22:29] Lacey Casper [ALL]: kid trolls for ever


Banned for 14 days Lyte
6 Days Ago 05:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Support Persian View Post
Post chatlogs, I know I had at least 1 or 2 games but that resulting in a 2 week ban is unjustified, I should at least have more chat restrictions and/or decrease it to 7 days.

Edit: My inital chat restrict was 100.
After further review, your ban has been permanently closed for excessive verbal abuse, racial slurs, indirect death threats, and more.

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[0:55] Support Persian [ALL]: IS U MAD THO
[1:06] Support Persian [ALL]: LEGIT QUESTION
[8:54] Support Persian: you stood there like a retarded kid.
[9:08] Support Persian: cant be toxic if its true sweete.
[9:15] Support Persian: lol, suck your premade more.
[9:18] Support Persian: hard.
[9:47] Support Persian: bad bad bad
[9:48] Support Persian: baaaaad
[9:55] Support Persian: baaaaaaad
[9:58] Support Persian: bad
[9:58] Support Persian: bad
[10:04] Support Persian: bad
[10:05] Support Persian: bad
[10:10] Support Persian: bad
[10:11] Support Persian: bad
[10:13] Support Persian: bad
[10:14] Support Persian: bad
[10:15] Support Persian: bad
[10:17] Support Persian: bad
[10:22] Support Persian: bad cait
[10:25] Support Persian: bad doggy
[10:39] Support Persian: bad doggy
[10:41] Support Persian: doggy mad?
[10:46] Support Persian: baaad
[10:48] Support Persian: doggy mad
[10:52] Support Persian: bad bad
[12:14] Support Persian: bad
[12:16] Support Persian: bad doggy
[12:28] Support Persian: baaad cait
[12:31] Support Persian: bad doggy
[12:49] Support Persian: doggy mad?
[12:58] Support Persian: what if i throw xin a bone?
[13:04] Support Persian: rawr
[13:41] Support Persian: nab
[13:42] Support Persian: nab
[13:43] Support Persian: nab
[13:44] Support Persian: nab
[13:46] Support Persian: nab
[13:47] Support Persian: lol
[14:03] Support Persian [ALL]: xin has his underwear up his ass hole
[14:11] Support Persian [ALL]: its ride up in there
[14:23] Support Persian: u sound mad
[14:40] Support Persian: no u mad
[15:04] Support Persian [ALL]: i have a main i only come on this acc to troll low elos
[15:09] Support Persian [ALL]: im not a bad person tho lol
[15:37] Support Persian [ALL]: i made cait super mad. i made xin butt hurt. i did my job
[15:44] Support Persian [ALL]: i only come on this acc to purely troll lol
[15:55] Support Persian [ALL]: im not a bad person tho lol
[16:28] Support Persian [ALL]: ikr
[16:38] Support Persian: ya, my main is totally bronze
[16:39] Support Persian: lel.
[16:45] Support Persian [ALL]: i shud
[17:09] Support Persian: bye bye kid
[17:19] Support Persian: im 13?
[17:21] Support Persian: grats?
[17:35] Support Persian [ALL]: I DID MY JOB
[17:39] Support Persian [ALL]: I MADE THEM RAGE
[17:42] Support Persian [ALL]: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
[18:01] Support Persian [ALL]: IS U MAD THO
[18:05] Support Persian [ALL]: LEGIT U MAD BRAGHHHHHHH
[18:10] Support Persian [ALL]: MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
[18:14] Support Persian [ALL]: MAD LFIE
[18:17] Support Persian [ALL]: MAD LIFE HOMIE
[18:27] Support Persian: this cait kid mad as **** YO YO
[18:37] Support Persian [ALL]: EVERY TIME I SPEN 50 CENT IN MA HOUSE SMOKIN HOOKAH
[18:39] Support Persian [ALL]: LEGIT
[18:49] Support Persian [ALL]: SELLING RUNE SCIMMY 40K
[18:50] Support Persian [ALL]: NO RE
[19:28] Support Persian [ALL]: RUNESCAPEEE
[19:31] Support Persian [ALL]: RUNESCAPE
[19:36] Support Persian [ALL]: RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNESCPAEPEPEPEPEEP
[19:45] Support Persian: made xin xin mad
[20:25] Support Persian: xin u mad
[20:31] Support Persian: say ur mad and ill surrender
[20:38] Support Persian: say it
[20:42] Support Persian: say "im mad" and ill surrender
[20:47] Support Persian: do it
[20:50] Support Persian: U BETTER DO IT

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[14:40] Support Persian: usually when kiddies do that threaten them to "report" and they go away
[15:09] Support Persian: i dont give a ****
[15:10] Support Persian: this is my smurf
[30:46] Support Persian [ALL]: well honestly, i dont give a **** about either of you. only 1 more day till my main is not char resrticted
[30:54] Support Persian [ALL]: i only come on this acc to make low elos piss their pants
[30:55] Support Persian [ALL]: lol
[31:04] Support Persian [ALL]: im not a person tho.
[31:06] Support Persian [ALL]:
[31:48] Support Persian [ALL]: idgaf attitude
[31:49] Support Persian [ALL]: lol
[32:12] Support Persian [ALL]: lel
[34:02] Support Persian [ALL]: i carried.
[34:34] Support Persian [ALL]: lel

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[17:55] Support Persian [ALL]: lol
[18:09] Support Persian [ALL]: its banned for like 2 more days
[18:14] Support Persian [ALL]: so i go on my smurf just to troll low elos

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49:42] Support Persian: told you.
[50:09] Support Persian: ww threw.
[50:16] Support Persian: like a ******.
[50:23] Support Persian: oh well
[50:26] Support Persian: the idiots will learn
[50:29] Support Persian [ALL]: ww threw.
[50:50] Support Persian: your not that good either dude.
[50:54] Support Persian: kill your self.
[51:01] Support Persian: hang your body.
[51:03] Support Persian: your worthless.
[51:07] Support Persian: waste of life.

[51:36] Support Persian: the idiot sat in their base for 2 minutes
[51:41] Support Persian: while we pinged him 92 times
[51:42] Support Persian: for baron
[51:51] Support Persian: shmock.
[51:54] Support Persian: your a shmock bro.
[52:00] Support Persian: we and irelia looked at you die.
[52:17] Support Persian: RL winner for sure
[52:18] Support Persian: lol.
[52:21] Support Persian: and i cant type
[52:27] Support Persian: go sit in their base like a emo kid
[52:29] Support Persian: and cut your self
[52:39] Support Persian: idiot.
[52:50] Support Persian: the ****in **** legit sat in their base
[52:51] Support Persian: and died.
[52:56] Support Persian: i lol'd
[53:01] Support Persian: me and irelia saw.
[53:05] Support Persian: and we both laughed
[53:12] Support Persian: stupid emo.
[53:18] Support Persian: eek typing
[53:21] Support Persian: keep typing
[53:40] Support Persian: keep typing
[53:41] Support Persian: f*ggot.
[53:49] Support Persian: im mad?
[53:52] Support Persian: you gave up.
[53:55] Support Persian: how am i mad
[53:57] Support Persian: lol.
[54:30] Support Persian: even without the f*ggot we still win
[54:32] Support Persian: rofl.
[54:40] Support Persian: thank you for tanking the damage idiot.
[54:49] Support Persian: you think you didnt help but you stood there and legit took all the damage for us
[54:53] Support Persian: ****ing plunker
[54:54] Support Persian: rofl.
[55:06] Support Persian: say something else homie.
[55:07] Support Persian: please.
[55:13] Support Persian: say something else.
[55:15] Support Persian: please.
[55:22] Support Persian: your arguement is so invlad it makes irelia actually look good.
[55:48] Support Persian: still talking?
[56:03] Support Persian: why dont you go sit in base
[56:06] Support Persian: butt hurt f*ggot.
[56:21] Support Persian: get more butt hurt
[56:24] Support Persian: your the one mad lol
[56:26] Support Persian: sitting there afk.
[56:49] Support Persian: lol, im laughing
[57:07] Support Persian [ALL]: get penta
[57:11] Support Persian [ALL]: nice
[57:17] Support Persian [ALL]: i made ww rage
[57:19] Support Persian [ALL]: lol.
[57:26] Support Persian [ALL]: ill send you the chat


2 Week ban? Lyte
6 Days Ago 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Malevolentslim View Post
I got banned for 2 weeks? Why? I hardly ever even talk ****, and generally a positive influence on people around me. Why did i get banned for 2 weeks?
You were banned for excessive verbal abuse in games on 8/11 and 8/10.


@Lyte are there fake ban e-mails going around? Lyte
6 Days Ago 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkvolcanReborn View Post
What could I possibly get banned for lol?
My first trip to the tribunal was obvious. Second and thirds were more and more questionable, with lesser majorities. And now, I rarely even type.

I got banned right as I typed this lol
Post on your main account and I can check it out.


@Lyte are there fake ban e-mails going around? Lyte
6 Days Ago 05:23 PM
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It means your ban is probably processing. There was a bit of wonkiness and the e-mails and bans got out of sync.


What's keeping the Summoner's Rift update from going live atm? Riot Tiki
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Anything you can say about a potential Crystal Scar VU?
Don't know unfortunately


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This completely blew my mind. How can you play the game at all and not realize there's a problem? People have complained about this from day 1, and Riot promised changes since the beta. THE BETA. They have yet to come through.

http://www.team-dignitas.net/article...lue-Team-Wins/

The map VU was the perfect time to fix up the geometry to even out the sides as well, but it doesn't seem like Riot has any intention of doing that either.
Honestly, I didn't start that long ago and this hasn't been an area of focus for me (well, until this conversation). My goal here is learning what and why from players while I can so I am better informed. I played for a while when the game came out in beta, but took a long break before coming to work here so I missed a lot in between.


What's keeping the Summoner's Rift update from going live atm? Riot Tiki
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Morning all (for the west coasters anyway!)

Will cover a few things here!

- Camera + blue/red: Thanks for the context on that, made for some good reading last night and this morning and I think I understand where you're coming from in regards to player pain on the purple side. As for the best way to solve it, I'm not sure. Swappable camera angle has some pretty big impacts ranging from the way the art looks (as one person mentioned) to how we deal with spectating matches, to disruption from what has been the norm for a while now. This isn't to say that we shouldn't do anything about it, mostly I'm not sure what the best solution is and considering all the implications of making a change, we'd have to be extremely confident in whatever choice we made.

- Spawn animations: Yep, these are only viewable right when a creature would normally spawn and we've back-timed them so creatures are targetable the exact moment they currently are on live. Since there are now moments during spawn where a creature is untargetable we're working pretty hard to make sure it's super clear when a creature is targetable vs. untargetable.

- Older champions: I have experienced this pain myself and it will definitely impact some champs harder than others We've actually got a separate team that is doing tons of work to update the visuals on a number of older champ models and they're working with the updated Summoner's Rift in mind. So basically we're already doing this, but there's still a lot of champs to work through.

- Color blindness: This is absolutely on our radar in terms of making things look right on the map. Not sure what the final solution will be, but it also ties into clarity concerns around easily distinguishing friends from enemies....and frenemies. Got a pretty solid team of visual designers and user experience guys helping us through this space. If you are color blind and have a chance to view the map or play on it please please give us feedback on this!!

- Computer specs: For the higher end computers, I'm not sure honestly. I don't expect work will stop on the updated rift once it goes to live, that will just be the point at which we believe the quality and health of the map is in a place to meet everyone's high expectations and deliver solid value to you all. Our primary concern for now though is making sure it runs as well on players' machines as the current map does.

- Regional: This hasn't been talked about much but I wanted to point out that we're also trying to collect a lot of international feedback on this. This will impact players all over the globe when it comes out and we want to mindful of players everywhere.


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I promise I'm looking into this...PROMISE!


New client audio features/settings requests? Riot Eno
1 Week Ago 07:37 AM
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Hey! I wanted to reach out to you fine folks and start a discussion around what kinds of audio features and settings you'd like to see in a new LoL client experience. What annoys you about sound in the current client? What features would you keep from the existing client?

Talk amongst yourselves.....I'm listenin'!


Riot, you're still overcharging for old Legendary skins. DontHassleDaHoff
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Legendary tier is price protected and requires refunds.

It's a different beast from the other tiers.
Just jumping in here real quick guys to call out some things. The 47 retired skins were the same ones that we made available last Nov/Dec (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/new...s-limited-time)

As for the "price protection" of the Legendary skins - Hippalus also addressed this last year when we gave the refund. (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflege..._skin_refunds/). At that point in time, we issued the refund to anyone that had purchased the retired Legendary skin previously as a one off.

I hope this clears up any confusion.


What's keeping the Summoner's Rift update from going live atm? Riot Tiki
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OK, running an ARAM and passing out. Will pop back in tomorrow if there are more questions

Goodnight for now folks!


What's keeping the Summoner's Rift update from going live atm? Riot Tiki
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Would you consider this?

Let the new SR map be live for a specific time and date and see how players are able to handle it on their computers and to see if there are any other bugs. Just like Team Builder, make it so we can queue for the new SR map separately from the current map.
This is one of the big parts of testing going on with PBE right now. We're essentially trying to gauge how it performs on different spec machines. It's pretty impossible to predict how it will work on every machine, but things are trending pretty well in terms of performance on most machines. We're also curious about perception of performance and how it feels. Do things seem to play the same?
It's just as important in my mind.

As far as the actual rollout, that's still being worked out. Lots of different ways to bring it out!


What's keeping the Summoner's Rift update from going live atm? Riot Tiki
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I'm sure there'll be some lovely 500 RP tax to upgrade.
Not the case. Beyond being out of line with all the stuff we've communicated, this would be incredibly unfair to so many players it's not even funny.


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I'll just add onto my previous question about whether or not Riot would put in the new map before WC4 assuming it was 100% done. You are welcome to say "Haven't a clue" in case you well... haven't a clue.

Frankly if Riot said no we will wait till after WC4, I'd agree with their decision fully. That kind of stuff can wait till pre season.
Just don't know, sorry!


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Any chance at all they'll make the map for more than just the default view so you can swap the purple/blue view?
I know this has been a big issue on the forums elsewhere, and I don't want to dodge it, but I'm also not the person most qualified to answer. What I do know is that there are sooooooooo many implications for changing default view and/or player control over it.

Personally, I think a swappable view might create a number of problems. I'm also happy to admit that I'm not fully clear on why some players really want the change. Would love to hear your thoughts on it.


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I like how Summoner's Rift is getting a visual update before Evelynn's cool new particles which were promised to us over 3 years ago.
Sorry, that one was before my time

That being said, I hope players like the update to the map when it comes out.


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So I got a question to add, and I'm not sure if it was added already. With the new update to include visual and audio updates. Are we going to see any new interaction with the champions and the Summoners Rift? This can include things in your base, the enemy base, certain jungle areas, Dragon and Baron Nashor, or even some stuff in lane.

Thanks!
We've already got some audio stuff in, but this is isolated to the creatures for now. They've all come with new sound effects. Other audio, like background music, is trickier. Partly because where it happens in the dev process, and also partly because of the sheer impact it has on the map. Some players play with music off, but a number don't and the music of Summoner's Rift, in my opinion, is both iconic and has a huge impact on the feel of the map. Any changes we make to that have to convey Summoner's Rift, so we're being really careful about how we approach any changes to the music.

Special interactions with champions aren't planned as far as I know, at least not as part of the team working directly on the map. However the champ team is doing a lot of cool stuff with new contextual champ to champ interactions... Demagglio!!!


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whoa, bunch of replies! Will try to get to most of this.

Release date: In all honesty this has not been set, I wish I could give you an exact date or anything close to it, but it's kind of a double-edged sword. Even with it getting closer and closer to the level of quality we want to deliver, lots of things can happen in dev. The last thing anyone on the team wants to do is set an expectation and end up letting you all down.

Stuff looks not-done: Yeah, some areas still need work quite frankly and it's good to hear any and all thoughts on places you all think could use some love. Ground plane (bases included) in a few areas still need to brought up to the level of some of the other areas so it feels cohesive in quality and style.

The duck.... there is no duck. There is only Gromp in all its froggy majesty.


What's keeping the Summoner's Rift update from going live atm? Riot Tiki
1 Week Ago 09:24 PM
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Hey all! Wanted to get back to you about this

There are a few things we're still working on to make sure it's great for players:

1. Bugs: Gotta make sure these are worked out. As CynicalGiant said, it's gonna be played by lots of players so we have to make sure it works. Players on PBE have been helping us identify and destroy evil bugs! So thanks all

2. Performance: Similar to the point above we want to make sure this performs just as well or better than the current SR does for as many players as possible. We don't want people to have to upgrade to play.

3. Addressing player feedback. I've been working with the Summoner's Rift Update team to collect feedback about the map in development from players in multiple regions. Some really good feedback coming in related to creatures, tone and specific areas on the map. Again, fixing helps us make sure it's awesome for as many players as possible.

4. Making visuals totally sweet: We're psyched you think it's looking good, and the artists are pouring their hearts into it looking for ways to make it look better. Some of it's stuff like fixing weird shadows and seams, and then there's still room to push the quality higher on individual areas as well.

So yeah, that stuff above! Definitely feel free to post questions and feedback, happy to chat with you about it!


So GhostCrawler invited me over to his house Ghostcrawler
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I would have offered you a mint julep at some point. Otherwise pretty accurate.


@Vesh It's been awhile... Vesh
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OH ho ho thank you Lizardj5, you helped cracked the code. [no sarcasm] But this is not something silence something something root...



This is something silence afterwards something root.

silence first, root second.

Soraka may be able to silence her enemy and after a short period of time, root.
Ah but remember, this is just SPECULATION!
picking up on key words doesn't seem to be your area of expertise. you're not too far off target though.


@Vesh It's been awhile... Vesh
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^
This seems like a good short fix if you ask me. Also it would still offer counterplay against soraka players because her Q is a self sustain. A hard counter still, but it's only against one ability with this idea and not the entire kit.

Also @Vesh just a little hint, I promise not to be too outlandish.

Silence, you! This forum post is not the area for clever hints. Maybe afterward we will get to the root of what the ability does.


I don't care who shames me, just tell me why I got a 14-day ban. Lyte
1 Week Ago 04:27 PM
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Here's a few examples from recent games:

[10:19] dantheman2: GUESS WHAT
[10:21] dantheman2: SO ARE YOU
[10:22] dantheman2: SURPRISE
[10:25] dantheman2: I DONT HAVE ANY MAX HP
[10:30] dantheman2: ZED IS A STRONGER DUELIST
[10:33] dantheman2: HES AHEAD
[10:43] dantheman2: YOUD BE ****ING LOSING AGAINST HIM TOO
[10:58] dantheman2: SAY IT AGAIN
[11:01] dantheman2: ILL FEED MORE DIP****
[11:15] dantheman2: TALKING **** DOESNT HELP THE TEAM
[11:17] dantheman2: IN ANY WAY
[11:30] dantheman2: YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY ****ING PRO AT THIS GAME THOUGH
[11:33] dantheman2: OH GOD OF LEAGUE
[13:35] dantheman2: baddie
[13:39] dantheman2: worst lol player ive ever seen
[13:50] dantheman2: just uninstall
[13:52] dantheman2: you cant improve
[14:10] dantheman2: oh, did i hurt your feelings
[16:02] dantheman2: i dont speak dumbass
[27:19] dantheman2 [ALL]: SUP
[27:29] dantheman2 [ALL]: to piss dip****s like you off

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[0:11] dantheman2: qweqqrqwqereewwrww
[0:48] dantheman2: weqqrqwqereewwrww
[4:50] dantheman2: xin
[4:51] dantheman2: gank me
[5:42] dantheman2: xin please
[5:45] dantheman2: ****ing gank
[5:48] dantheman2: ill die
[5:51] dantheman2: go to the bush
[5:58] dantheman2: just ****ing go in
[6:00] dantheman2: i know what to do
[6:09] dantheman2: GANK
[6:46] dantheman2 [ALL]: **** that
[6:51] dantheman2 [ALL]: i asked for a gank 5 minutes ago
[6:56] dantheman2 [ALL]: xin ****ing decided to wait
[7:04] dantheman2: I ****ING SAID GANK
[7:07] dantheman2: DONT WAIT FOR ME TO DIE
[7:09] dantheman2: GANK
[7:28] dantheman2: DONT START TEEMO
[7:35] dantheman2: ITS A ROOKIE MISTAKE
[8:56] dantheman2: ****s sake
[12:21] dantheman2: SHE DIDNT
[12:29] dantheman2: DID SHE CHARM?
[12:36] dantheman2: WHAT THE ****
[12:42] dantheman2: DO THEY HAVE A PINK WARD?
[14:13] dantheman2 [ALL]: 2v1 and i had no w
[14:14] dantheman2 [ALL]: please
[14:22] dantheman2: MY GOD KILL HIOM
[14:24] dantheman2: JESUS ****
[14:28] dantheman2: HOW BAD DO YOU HAVE TO BE
[14:34] dantheman2: whatever
[14:37] dantheman2: dont die
[14:39] dantheman2: **** that
[14:46] dantheman2: lees a little ****ing c*nt
[15:49] dantheman2: dont ****ing take
[15:51] dantheman2: my ****ing minions
[19:55] dantheman2: end him
[19:56] dantheman2: wtf
[19:58] dantheman2: MY GOD
[20:03] dantheman2: THE ****ING LEVEL OF STUPIDITY
[20:12] dantheman2: ...
[20:17] dantheman2: xerath
[20:27] dantheman2: you're garbage
[20:30] dantheman2 [ALL]: what?
[20:33] dantheman2 [ALL]: you're garbage
[21:00] dantheman2 [ALL]: pfft
[21:06] dantheman2 [ALL]: you're ****ing garbage
[21:15] dantheman2 [ALL]: I HAVENT PLAYED ZED IN 6 MONTHS
[21:16] dantheman2 [ALL]: ROFL
[21:23] dantheman2 [ALL]: AND I HAVENT PLAYED LEAGUE IN LIKE A WEEK
[21:30] dantheman2 [ALL]: COURSE IM GONNA DO BAD
[21:33] dantheman2 [ALL]: BUT EVERYONE ELSE DID TOO
[21:41] dantheman2 [ALL]: YOUR TEAM GOT LUCKY
[23:55] dantheman2 [ALL]: dont ****ing talk ****
[23:59] dantheman2 [ALL]: when you're bronze
[27:09] dantheman2: you <333 butt****ing them

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[15:24] dantheman2: shut the **** up wukong
[18:40] dantheman2 [ALL]: YOU SHOULD ****ING HELP
[21:29] dantheman2 [ALL]: you're bronze 4
[21:35] dantheman2 [ALL]: you're ****ing garbage
[28:35] dantheman2 [ALL]: you're ****
[29:15] dantheman2: is a slightly ****tier **** than i
[30:27] dantheman2: wtf are you talking about vayne
[30:35] dantheman2: why are you raging
[30:39] dantheman2: like alittle crybaby
[30:54] dantheman2: you just did
[30:55] dantheman2: dumbass
[47:37] dantheman2 [ALL]: vayne is on her period again

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[11:12] dantheman2: can you ****ing stop whining
[11:22] dantheman2: shut up
[12:18] dantheman2 [ALL]: buff transfer complete
[12:55] dantheman2: shut up
[13:02] dantheman2: shut the **** up
[13:08] dantheman2: neither should you
[13:20] dantheman2 [ALL]: report miss fortune
[13:23] dantheman2 [ALL]: toxic ****ing c*nt
[13:51] dantheman2 [ALL]: not toxic at all
[13:55] dantheman2 [ALL]: until you decided i was trash
[14:08] dantheman2 [ALL]: and had the urge to be a c*nt


When playing warwick skills lockup and become unable to use. Riot Exgeniar
1 Week Ago 01:29 PM
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I'm so sorry I didn't see this thread earlier.
I've forward this to the right people.

The bug was very clear on how to reproduce the issue, and I was able to reproduce it immediately. Great stuff

Thanks again!


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You were banned for excessive verbal abuse on teammates, including calling players unskilled sl*ts, threatening to AFK, screaming obscenities in caps, and more.


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1 Week Ago 12:09 AM
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I'm not going to subvert an entire game mechanic on a champion I design. Grievous wounds should be addressed, but we need to look at it comprehensively. Making the most powerful healer in the game that also says "I remove the one thing you can do to stop my healing" is probably not ok if we are letting people buy into grievous wounds or pick champions they think will be good against her.

That said, I think one of the core problems with it is that we applied the mechanic a bit too liberally on some champions (like varus) who had the intention of negating lifesteal in 1v1 but unintentionally destroy characters like Soraka. This isn't my expertise though. I'm sure someone on our systems team is already thinking about this problem and ways we can solve it.


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Hello LoL forums! I want to see some of my chat logs which were toxic because I just recieved a 14 day ban. And yes, I've seen the things on reddit "lytesmite", "wookiecookied". I don't believe I am toxic enough to receive a 14 day ban, when my last chat restriction was 10 games around 3 weeks ago. PLease Lyte,or WookieCookie, I would like to see some of my chat logs.
You were banned for excessive verbal abuse, homophobic slurs, and more in matches. For example, recent matches on 8/10 and 8/8 include:

[3:28] BaronMuncher: worst ze
[7:02] BaronMuncher: goddamn u guys are bad
[20:12] BaronMuncher: wtf
[23:00] BaronMuncher: wtf are you doing
[23:11] BaronMuncher: goddamn this ashe
[24:15] BaronMuncher: fkn ashe
[24:16] BaronMuncher: wtf u doing ashe
[24:21] BaronMuncher: same with you shyvana
[24:28] BaronMuncher: god this team is not carryable
[26:28] BaronMuncher: WTF
[26:29] BaronMuncher: idiots
[32:47] BaronMuncher: shut up
[32:58] BaronMuncher: shtu up ashe
[32:59] BaronMuncher: dont talk
[33:07] BaronMuncher: feeding team
[33:57] BaronMuncher [ALL]: yeah cuz i fked u in lane
[34:01] BaronMuncher: this is over
[34:05] BaronMuncher: you guys dont know how to play

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[12:26] BaronMuncher: wtf maoaki
[12:38] BaronMuncher: ik
[12:43] BaronMuncher: get the fkn turret top
[12:52] BaronMuncher: waht are u odoing
[13:15] BaronMuncher: fkn maoaki so bad
[13:16] BaronMuncher: im afk
[13:40] BaronMuncher: im done
[17:00] BaronMuncher: NAMI LEAVE U IDIOT
[17:14] BaronMuncher: im afk
[18:04] BaronMuncher: fkn maoaki so abd
[18:06] BaronMuncher: nami so bad also
[18:08] BaronMuncher: hate this team
[24:16] BaronMuncher: ziggs is trash

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[38:40] BaronMuncher: fk
[38:53] BaronMuncher [ALL]: yeah
[39:03] BaronMuncher: thats fkn gay dude
[41:39] BaronMuncher: fkn nami
[41:52] BaronMuncher [ALL]: report nami
[44:15] BaronMuncher: fkn nami
[44:16] BaronMuncher [ALL]: report nanmi
[44:19] BaronMuncher [ALL]: report her
[44:22] BaronMuncher [ALL]: fkn deserves to be banned
[44:39] BaronMuncher: ff*got

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[1:57] BaronMuncher: its fkn gay as fk
[6:55] BaronMuncher: fk
[7:00] BaronMuncher: fk juts leave dude
[7:22] BaronMuncher [ALL]: fkn leave

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[20:41] BaronMuncher: fk. i have to try now
[22:24] BaronMuncher: wtf are u guys doing
[22:26] BaronMuncher: talonm
[22:36] BaronMuncher: wtf/...
[24:13] BaronMuncher: fkn talon
[24:46] BaronMuncher: no stfu
[24:48] BaronMuncher [ALL]: STFU
[24:51] BaronMuncher: ur still bad
[25:00] BaronMuncher: u guys are trash
[26:16] BaronMuncher: fkn talon
[33:34] BaronMuncher: im afk
[38:10] BaronMuncher: talon is fkn bad


"Riot assured us that all event icons will be for IP or obtainable!" WizardCrab
1 Week Ago 11:41 PM
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Hey guys.

This thread is a bit of a minefield so I'll probably only post in here once (although I'll continue to read it).

I would like you to look back and read the post that I wrote. I still stand by every single word I said there. I did not make you a "promise" there. I made it very clear that I wasn't making a promise. The only thing I didn't outright say is "This is not a promise" but I don't feel I need to say that. If I'm promising you something, I promise you that I'll use the phrase "I promise." I very clearly stated that we are forming a strategy that is "malleable" and would likely take a form similar to what I said.

And I stand by that it still takes exactly that form. This is why I tried to explain that an "event" that would cause us to put an IP price on an icon was more than a promotional site or themed skin release. Do you really think Sugar Rush is like the Freljord event, one with a big lore tie-in? Or Harrowing/Snowdown/Lunar Revel, events related to real world holidays that many people participate in? Or something truly special like the release of a full-on, in house music album? Or on the scale of something like possibly the biggest global sporting competition that only happens every four years? When I said that an event "for just this context" is more, I meant that. AND the reason I added that bold phrase about it being for that specific context in my original post is because I meant that it was for just that specific context. The word event can be used by anyone at anytime to mean anything. PAX is an event, but it doesn't apply here, because I'm only talking about this context. The super moon yesterday was an event but it doesn't apply because I'm only talking about this context. I'm begging that you read the words I've written and take them at face value, because I 100% will not lie to you because I just don't ****ing do that.

I will also try my best to be as clear as I can so I don't mislead you by accident, which it appears that I've done here. I'm sorry that I unintentionally misled you. I really did not mean to. But don't come in here and tell me that I'm lying to you when I'm not. I really don't appreciate that.

For this particular candy-themed adventure, you can purchase one icon for RP, and unlock another through participation in gifting. There will be many more icons, many of which will be available for IP. If you don't feel that the RP only icon is worth the money, please don't buy it. Buy the stuff you like, leave the rest on the (virtual) shelf.

/saltycrab


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You're assuming a lot of a person you've never met
I don't know the exact scenario that upset you, but it could have been many things. I'm human just like everyone else, and could have been distracted, tired, etc. Maybe it was something as simple as I couldn't talk about something we were working on at the time. At gaming conventions I usually spend hours sitting and chatting with players, and typically remember most interactions. I even remember specifically meeting and talking to people like Semantic Memory (who recently reached out to me), and even people I met just once (a guy who now works at Azubu) several years ago when they came in for a user study when I was working at a game studio in Seattle.

If I am thinking of the same person, Stexe was never a Rioter btw.


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I hope you learned something about how you respond to cases like this as well. You came in parading false evidence without context in the first post, and didn't acknowledge the error/context until after it was pointed out by the OP.

Not a good look for any Rioter, especially you.
That's a fair criticism. I made a mistake, and it was really hard to tell which comments were self-attacks and which were not, especially with my limited toolset from home. I responded too quickly, even though I recognized right off the bat all the weirdness.

But, this is why we have teams work on the features and review cases and not just me.


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We have to be very very careful with generalizations though - they're fine, as long as we're careful.
An immense meta study was done that said that generally all children of different genders had about the same IQ for their age group.
What the generalization did not tell us? 70% of the girls had 95-105 IQ, and over 80% of the boys were either classified as retarded or geniuses.

Too bad IQ means nothing and it was a waste of money that could have gone to skins.
To be fair, a proper sampling study would have measured the variance and shape of the distributions, so you would have been able to decipher those insights


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Hey,

You were banned again due to excessive verbal abuse on 8/9/2014, and there are quite a few examples on 8/10/2014 and 8/11/2014 as well.

It 100% was not because of the Vayne game.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Policecars View Post
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The percentage of errors so far is higher than immediately thought - be careful not to use the wrong denominator/parameter.
Right now, we're going through testing phases of the system, so we do review almost everything.

However, in the academics, you'll often see scientists use random sampling methods and draw conclusions based off of them. For example, if you randomly sampled 200,000 people in the USA and found that 50% loved milk, you could generalize that to suggest that 50% of all people in the USA love milk. You can do this because with proper sample sizes and random sampling, you don't need to actually survey every single person in the USA. In other words, if we wanted to random sample a meaningful sample size of bans and found a 99% accuracy rate... we could generalize that to the entire system without hand reviewing 100% of cases.


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1 Week Ago 09:01 PM
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You wouldn't have reviewed it though if he hadn't created this thread.
This isn't true. There's a dedicated team that is reviewing these cases, and a team that is addressing Player Support tickets directly with players in private.

So, if the player wrote in a ticket, it would have been addressed as well. There's a lot of checks and balances in place, because we lose sleep at night over making mistakes when it could cost a player gametime or an account; however, it's still very possible that errors happen.

We just have to fix it, no matter where/when/how we find out about it.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 08:58 PM
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Well, this thread is certainly proof that the new ban system is indeed broken to some extent, and that Lyte will do nothing to fix it, but rather point out the "good" it has been doing.
From this case, we can see that the system clearly does not handle self-attacks very well and even human review missed it because it's pretty nuanced. We'll have to figure this out. This is the first case in tens of thousands that has resulted in an error, so overall, the system is doing OK.

There's always room for improvement, and no system will ever be perfect.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 08:56 PM
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Nevermind the previous post, update is in.

We're going to remove the ban entirely. Your account should be updated in a few minutes Lil Soybean.

We've confirmed that most of the attacks were against himself, and if we removed all of the self-attacks, the attacks on smurfs alone did not justify a punishment. It was super unclear which of OP's attacks were against himself and which were against smurfs (because the chat lines sometimes didn't mention a champion or Summoner Name), but once we dug into more detail and removed all of the OP's attacks against himself in the chat logs, the remaining attacks against smurfs weren't severe enough to warrant a penalty.

This is the first case we've hand-reviewed in the new machine learning system that has resulted in an error in the outcome, and I'd like to personally apologize to you Lil Soybean. We'll have to figure out better ways to have the system identify self-attacks with a different severity scale.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 08:50 PM
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And while Lyte admitted after getting called out that the supposed "toxic" chat was actually the OP talking about himself, my bet is that he actually had no idea until afterwards.
No, it was one of the first "weird" things. In many chat logs (there aren't that many games total because it's a relatively new account), there are obvious toxic statements; however, the OP seems to usually be talking about himself most of the time. We're having other people review the case, and may decide to just lift the punishment because there's too many oddities that we need to sort out.

But, I am currently at home so it's harder to review things with my limited toolset. I want to make sure another group reviews the case, makes sure we aren't missing anything obvious like AFKing or pre/post-game chat logs or some other reason the punishment was escalated before we decide to completely lift the punishment. Even though the OP does attack other smurfs, it's not excessive. There's no homophobia, sexism or racism in his attacks, and it's just persistent. There's also a lot of positivity in a few chat logs, where he's actively helping out new players. All in all, extremely weird case.

In saying this, we knew mistakes would happen, and it looks like this could be one. We'll know more very soon, I just can't check everything from here.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 08:27 PM
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And you don't see this as unfair at all?

So if a Challenger player makes a smurf and a Bronze 5 player makes a smurf, they should be matched together because they are both smurfs.

Yeah no... All you should be doing to smurfs is accelerating their potential MMR gains so if they are that good they will be against people of their own skill faster, while those who are not as good will not suddenly be against people way better than them just because they are both smurfs.

Also, how exactly are we supposed to play with new friends? Oh right we can't because you're going to match us against smurfs who will then go feed off all the non-smurfs and all we can do to retaliate is to do the same (thus ruining the experience of even more newbies) or go after the smurf and hope we're good enough to beat him despite him being fed.
We don't explain how the matchmaker handles smurfs in detail for obvious reasons (like giving players ways to circumvent it). However, it doesn't just place smurfs vs smurfs. Obviously skill (and projected skill) are all factors that are taken into account.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 08:24 PM
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Wouldn't it make sense to post the chat logs that show that, rather than some weird case of the OP reprimanding himself?
Well, I'm just being transparent in explaining that this is a weird case. The OP knows he attacks other smurfs verbally. He also suggested he didn't use chat at all, which wasn't the case. Our goal isn't to make players look like bad people if we can avoid it.

In this case, I reduced the punishment so it's important to be transparent about the fact that the system and human review process does make errors, but it's also important to be transparent about the weirdness and abnormalities in this case.

As a player, you should be able to see that cases like these are super rare, and 99% of cases are accurately escalated to 14-day and permanent bans. However, if a false positive does happen, we need to fix it ASAP.


Banned for Not Speaking AT ALL Lyte
1 Week Ago 08:18 PM
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I think it's worth noting that this wave of bans (including ones like this, where part of the reason for banning was, ostensibly, for insulting myself) has resulted in a massive wave of smurfs.
While watching my newbie friend play, as well as joining him myself on this new account, it was very apparent that perhaps 80% of the people we'd face up against were smurfs.

It hardly mattered that I was a smurf as well, considering I'm a Bronze III smurfing into a new role I have no experience in, whereas my friend has to lane against Gold-tier smurfs who completely shut him down before he has any chance to help his ADC.
Actually, the ban waves haven't created a huge wave of smurfs. The matchmaking system identifies smurfs pretty well, and generally smurfs will be matched against smurfs--that's why you see more smurfs (as a smurf).


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1 Week Ago 08:10 PM
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No, he aggressively attacks himself, and he goes after smurfs.

It's definitely one of the weirdest cases I've reviewed.


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1 Week Ago 08:07 PM
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Okay....this is a very simple misunderstanding.

I was the Akali.

The quotation marks around what I said are vital. Can you see the score at this point, or a history of the match? Because, as I recall, I was mocking myself for just having dove in on the enemy team and died.

Again, to clarify; I was talking about myself. I was the Akali in question.
This is why I said your chatlogs are very weird. A lot of players got super frustrated and pissed playing with you, but you generally only verbally attack other smurfs.

I've reduced the ban to 3 days already.